How will the Stark kids react to Daenerys ?

[chrisdaw]

How Jon will react to her is foreshadowed in the text, Dany is Bael.

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"Brave black crow," she mocked. "Well, long before he was king over the free folk, Bael was a great raider."

Stonesnake gave a snort. "A murderer, robber, and raper, is what you mean."

"That's all in where you're standing too," Ygritte said. "The Stark in Winterfell wanted Bael's head, but never could take him, and the taste o' failure galled him. One day in his bitterness he called Bael a craven who preyed only on the weak.

 

From where Jon's standing Dany will have come and plunged Westeros into a terrible war. Instead of using her dragons to defend Westeros against the Others she will have lost them warring for the throne in the Dance. He'll want nothing of her, but she will have come determined to "pluck" the Winter Rose and so will successfully turn to deceit.

 

Arya will love Dany at the outset. Dany is Arya but with the power to act on her just impulses, to instantly right wrongs, real and perceived, and seemingly without care for worldly considerations. But worldly context must be considered, else a leader ends up having to bend the world to their will and become a tyrant. Arya will stick around Dany long enough to see where that path leads, and when Arya comes into her own power she'll be better for the knowledge.

 

Sansa will see Dany coming a mile away and eat her up. She'll ingratiate herself to Dany while behind the scenes make sure Westeros sees Dany as a heathen, barbaric, lustful, mad queen to contrast with her pious dutiful self.

[Corvo the Crow]

12 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

The only proper reaction from the Starks is to show respect and an appropriate level of deference. She is the rightful ruler over them.
 

I don’t expect that, given the pugnacious nature of Ned’s children. 

Be still, Aes Sedai.

[Tyrosh Lannister]

15 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

The only proper reaction from the Starks is to show respect and an appropriate level of deference. She is the rightful ruler over them.
 

I don’t expect that, given the pugnacious nature of Ned’s children. 

How is daenerys the rightful ruler ? The batatheons are. 

[StarkTullies]

16 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

What do you think will be the actual reactions of Ned Stark's surviving children when they'll hear about Daenerys Targaryen actually coming to Westeros and when they'll meet her in person ? 

The Targaryens were overthrown before any of them were born.  They have heard nothing about Daenerys or any living Targaryen, and the Targaryens are relics of history in their minds, not something that they think about.  Ned and Catelyn's thoughts never spoke poorly about the Targaryens as a whole (just Mad King Aerys), and Ned especially would not speak poorly about the Targaryens to his children, since Jon is one.  While the Starks hate the Lannisters (with good cause), they don't otherwise care who sits the Iron Throne (except whoever would support the Watch, in Jon's case).  They would have a neutral, blank slate on the idea of a surviving Targaryen making a claim on the throne.  Their opinion of Daenerys depends on Daenerys.

As children when the story first started, Jon's "hero" was Daeron Targaryen.  Sansa dreamed of songs and loved any fairy tale story about princes and princesses (she remembers fondly of Aemon the Dragonknight).  Clearly they don't hate Targaryens.  Arya named her direwolf after Nymeria; she would admire a fierce dragonriding woman of power.  Bran was seven when the story started, and Rickon was three.

But then there is Daenerys: "Lannister or Stark, what difference? Viserys used to call them the Usurper's dogs. If a child is set upon by a pack of hounds, does it matter which one tears out his throat? All the dogs are just as guilty."

That's where the problems will begin.  Dany said this in ADWD, not early on, and no defense from Barristan about how Ned fought to protect her would change her stubborn hatred.  Dany frequently has thoughts about bringing fire and blood to her "enemies"... which she very much considers the Starks.  Even if Dany "only" hates Ned, who is dead, the Starks aren't going to support an entitled brat who thinks she has the right to rule because she is the daughter of a psychopathic tyrant who happened to murder the Stark kids' grandfather and uncle.

Daenerys of course can grow and change before she arrives in Westeros, but the end of ADWD doesn't look like she will change for the better.  "Fire and blood", "dragons plant no trees", and all that.

15 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

The only proper reaction from the Starks is to show respect and an appropriate level of deference. She is the rightful ruler over them.

The only proper reaction from Daenerys is for her to apologize for the actions of her evil father against the Stark family.  Not because she is guilty of the Mad King's atrocities, but if her claim to power is through him, she needs to apologize for him.

Not a single person in Westeros owes Daenerys respect or deference for anything.  Coming to Westeros with an entitled attitude would automatically prove her unworthy of the throne.

And please answer this: why were three kingsguards protecting Lyanna and her baby (Jon), and zero kingsguards protecting Viserys and Daenerys?  Obviously they were protecting the "rightful Targaryen heir", but no, Jon is not the rightful ruler either.  The Targaryens have no rightful claim to anything because they were overthrown.

[Rondo]

The Stark kids are homeless and have all lost their high social status.  Their reaction is not important.  Their opinions are not important.  Jon Snow was ventilated for treason and is now dying on the ground.  Rickon is enjoying the taste of human flesh in Skagos.  Arya is a serial murderer overseas.  Arya is one accident away from getting caught and killed.  Sansa is Allayne at the Vale.  What they think should be of no concern.  Bran  is the only. one who can make trouble.  Burn him and his tree to the ground and he will be no more.  

[Craving Peaches]

36 minutes ago, Rondo said:

Burn him and his tree to the ground and he will be no more.  

Hard to do that when they're inside a cave Beyond the Wall which is well guarded and also hard to access because of the others.

[Aldarion]

2 hours ago, Rondo said:

Burn him and his tree to the ground and he will be no more.  

1. How will she find him?

2. How will she get her dragons there?

[Craving Peaches]

1 hour ago, Aldarion said:

1. How will she find him?

2. How will she get her dragons there?

By the power of these peoples' wishes and strong, irrational dislike of the Starks.

[StarkTullies]

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

The Stark kids are homeless and have all lost their high social status.

This is true.  Just like Daenerys was in poor standing most of her entire life until her brief reign as khaleesi, and then she lost it again for a while after Drogo's death.  Things change, and so it will change for the Starks.  Do you believe that 4 out of the 6 main characters are just going to linger in irrelevance for the remainder of the story?

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

Their reaction is not important.  Their opinions are not important.

The Northmen disagree, and many of the Riverlanders do too.  They consider the Starks their rightful rulers.  They are fighting a war against the Bolton's to save "Ned's little girl".

"Mhysa" should care about the reactions of all her "children"... even the Starks.  Otherwise she is not a very good mother.

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

Jon Snow was ventilated for treason and is now dying on the ground.

And he's obviously coming back to life again.  He's the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, and he's named Robb Stark's heir in his will.  He can't be king and Lord Commander both, but either way his opinion matters.

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

Rickon is enjoying the taste of human flesh in Skagos.

"If even half the stories coming back from Slaver's Bay are true, this child is a monster. They say that she is bloodthirsty, that those who speak against her are impaled on spikes to die lingering deaths. They say she is a sorceress who feeds her dragons on the flesh of newborn babes, an oathbreaker who mocks the gods, breaks truces, threatens envoys, and turns on those who have served her loyally. They say her lust cannot be sated, that she mates with men, women, eunuchs, even dogs and children, and woe betide the lover who fails to satisfy her. She gives her body to men to take their souls in thrall."

Are these stories about Daenerys true?  People tell lies and rumors and exaggerations about things they don't know.  There is no reason to unquestionably believe the stories about Skagos as truth.

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

Sansa is Allayne at the Vale.

And Allayne will soon reveal herself as Sansa Stark with all the Knights of the Vale to support her (or so is Petyr's plan).  Her opinion matters too.

12 hours ago, Rondo said:

Bran  is the only. one who can make trouble.  Burn him and his tree to the ground and he will be no more.  

So the "protagonist" of the series (according to many) should start her invasion of Westeros by burning a 10-year-old boy?  She should respond to people who are fearful of her being a tyrant by proving that she is indeed a tyrant?  Such an odd concept of heroism.

[James West]

It would be foolish of the Starks to be hostile towards Daenerys Targaryen.  I am not saying they won't be hostile.  Just that it would be foolish to do so. Jon and Arya are fools and will be the most antagonistic.  I can actually see them acting the fools because of the lies they had been told growing up.  They think Aunt Lyanna was an honorable girl who was abducted by a Targaryen and murdered.  So yeah there will be hostile feelings.