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[Mexal]

7 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

The Menu, which is on HBO Max now at least in the US, is truly one of the oddest films I've ever seen. It's predictable, yet I could not turn away. Highly recommend.

Labeling this a musical or a comedy for awards is pretty offensive to either genre though. 

 

My wife and I watched this last night as well and loved it. We're semi-unpretentious foodies so the discussions cracked us up throughout the whole movie. Good shit.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

22 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Doesn't make for a great film franchise though. It kind of misses the middle portion where Bond gets to enjoy being Bond or actually IS Bond. It's like you spend 1.5 movies for him to become what we know as James Bond and then the rest of the time it's him looking for a way out. It's like there are 3 missing movies in between. Plus all the dialogue talking about how Bond is this or that, as if it's all stuff that happened off screen inbetween movies. It's all a bit odd.

That's the thing though, Bond isn't "Bond." He's not a great lothario. He's very resourceful and doesn't use gadgets. His car is really slow by modern standards and only gets minor special features late in the series. He's clumsy all the time, not a great fighter and loses as much as he wins without dying. The book villains are also more realistic. They don't recover like Michael Myers. Their plans are pretty straightforward once understood and they die easily. The source material is far more grounded. 

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It makes the good ones more noticeable sure. My point being your average Bond movie is actually kind of forgettable and not really all that good, so I don't have massive expectations around them. 

The average Bond film is popcorn fun and one of the great parts about them is most people agree on the best ones, but after that, have fun arguing which is better, License to Kill or Tomorrow Never Dies?

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

25 minutes ago, Mexal said:

My wife and I watched this last night as well and loved it. We're semi-unpretentious foodies so the discussions cracked us up throughout the whole movie. Good shit.

I literally had a job for around two years where the title was Food-E. It was a great experience, but I never got the over the top shit and this film was that to the max.

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I was so happy when Margot sent the food back. It's something I rarely do, but I thought it would fuck with the chef and was talking to my TV telling her to do it. So satisfying. 

Also, random thought, Idk if I've ever seen Hoult be unlikable before.

 

[Which Tyler]

5 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Also, random thought, Idk if I've ever seen Hoult be unlikable before.

Then you need to watch The Great

[Mexal]

14 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I literally had a job for around two years where the title was Food-E. It was a great experience, but I never got the over the top shit and this film was that to the max.

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I was so happy when Margot sent the food back. It's something I rarely do, but I thought it would fuck with the chef and was talking to my TV telling her to do it. So satisfying. 

Also, random thought, Idk if I've ever seen Hoult be unlikable before.

 

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Margot was awesome. Loved how she just pushed his buttons over and over. Gotta say, that cheeseburger looked so damn good and she was quite clever in "asking to take it to go".

 

[polishgenius]

Uncontroversial take: The average quality of Mission Impossible movies is higher than of Bond movies.

Controversial take: the same is true of Fast and Furious. 

Screen-melting-take: Melissa McCarthy's Spy movie > most Bond films. 


(I actually haven't seen that many older Bond movies. I dunno if the second two are true). 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

5 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

Uncontroversial take: The average quality of Mission Impossible movies is higher than of Bond movies.

Controversial take: the same is true of Fast and Furious. 

Screen-melting-take: Melissa McCarthy's Spy movie > most Bond films. 


(I actually haven't seen that many older Bond movies. I dunno if the second two are true). 

I hope an asteroid lands wherever you're standing.

[Spockydog]

54 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

Uncontroversial take: The average quality of Mission Impossible movies is higher than of Bond movies.
 

Aye. MI3 is way better than every single Bond movie put together.

[Mexal]

4 hours ago, polishgenius said:

Uncontroversial take: The average quality of Mission Impossible movies is higher than of Bond movies.

Controversial take: the same is true of Fast and Furious. 

Screen-melting-take: Melissa McCarthy's Spy movie > most Bond films. 


(I actually haven't seen that many older Bond movies. I dunno if the second two are true). 

Spy was amazing.

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

6 hours ago, Spockydog said:

Aye. MI3 is way better than every single Bond movie put together.

Is that the one with that insane, physics-defying motorcycle chase where the bikes magically transform from road bikes to dirt bikes and back depending on the terrain?

[WarGalley]

4 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Is that the one with that insane, physics-defying motorcycle chase where the bikes magically transform from road bikes to dirt bikes and back depending on the terrain?

No that was (the dreadful) MI2. MI3 was the one with Philip Seymour Hoffman and Michelle Monaghan in her first role.

[3CityApache]

16 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Labeling this a musical or a comedy for awards is pretty offensive to either genre though. 

 

Wait, what?

I had mixed feelings about this one, knowing nothing about it prior to watching it. Acting was good, but the story didn't particularly grab me.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Is that the one with that insane, physics-defying motorcycle chase where the bikes magically transform from road bikes to dirt bikes and back depending on the terrain?

But was it the one with one, two or three instances of a character ripping off a fake face? Idk?!?!?!

Personally I'm not that into the MI films, but they're better than the Bourne ones. 

11 minutes ago, 3CityApache said:

Wait, what?

I had mixed feelings about this one, knowing nothing about it prior to watching it. Acting was good, but the story didn't particularly grab me.

It's listed as a musical/comedy for award season. There wasn't any singing in the film and if there were jokes, I must have missed most of them. 

The story wasn't bad, just not what I think people expected going in and likely didn't live up to expectations. 

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I thought they were going to feed the side characters to the main guests. It being some kind of revenge/suicide thing was a surprise.

 

[polishgenius]

1 hour ago, WarGalley said:

No that was (the dreadful) MI2. MI3 was the one with Philip Seymour Hoffman 

 

MI:2 is the only really bad one. But it's bad in funny ways. 

 

3 hasn't aged that well in some ways but it's held up by a magnificent villain performance from Philip Seymour Hoffman.




I do enjoy that the first Mission Impossible sorta came out as a relatively more grounded answer to the very silly Bonds of the time (even if Goldeneye was less silly than the subsequent ones and you do have to accept the masks in MI) but then when Bourne took that spot and Bond followed it with Casino Royale, Mission Impossible countered by just committing to the OTT when the industry wisdom was saying not to, and taking everyone's lunch money. 

 

 

1 hour ago, WarGalley said:

Michelle Monaghan in her first role.

lies

[dbunting]

I enjoyed the first two Bourne (especially the original) movies more than any Bond. Also enjoyed a couple of the MI movies more than Bond movies. That said, I also liked most of the Bond movies, just at different levels. 

[3CityApache]

12 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

The story wasn't bad, just not what I think people expected going in and likely didn't live up to expectations. 

There's the thing, I didn't know anything about it before so I had zero expectations whatsoever. But that's probably just not my cup of tea. 

[Heartofice]

The latest MI movies have definitely been doing the Bond thing better than Bond for a while. I think Fallout is a fucking great movie and part of that is the stunt work and the action and the locations. 

But then Bond always seems to be more inclined to follow trends and try to adapt to what is new rather than knowing what it is and sticking to it. The Craig movies are a reaction to the Bourne movies (and the stupidity of Die Another Day I suppose). 

[Darryk]

Mission Impossible movies area fine but I love the British aspect of the Bond movies. And I love the classy aspect of the character vs the grittiness of Bourne and Ethan Hunt.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

29 minutes ago, Darryk said:

Mission Impossible movies area fine but I love the British aspect of the Bond movies. And I love the classy aspect of the character vs the grittiness of Bourne and Ethan Hunt.

Book Bond is a gritty character. And kind of clumsy. He's not suave, he doesn't have gadgets for the most part and he's constantly getting his ass kicked.

[Darryk]

1 minute ago, Tywin et al. said:

Book Bond is a gritty character. And kind of clumsy. He's not suave, he doesn't have gadgets for the most part and he's constantly getting his ass kicked.

So more like the Daniel Craig version then?

I think for film (which, let's face it, is where the majority know Bond from), Sean Connery  demonstrates the qualities that people associate with the character, although my favorite is Brosnan.