James West Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 12/29/2022 at 9:37 AM, Aline de Gavrillac said: The Starks swore to honor this marriage. The war is over. A negotiated settlement where the Starks are allowed to return to the north and the Riverlands are returned to the Tullys. The living Starks are back in Winterfell and it is time to pay Lord Walder. Arya cries and throws a tantrum. Do you believe Robb Stark will honor the promise to Lord Walder? He should, in my opinion. The Starks have a solemn obligation to marry Arya to Elmar. But do you think he would? I have my doubts. Robb would no longer need the Freys and that is the kind of man he was. Robb doesn't do things for ethical reasons. Robb does what he feels like doing. And then tries to spin it as honor. Just more Stark hubris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gizzard of Oz Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 10:03 AM, Darth Sidious said: Even if Stevron had lived. Ser Stevron, or anybody for that matter, would never trust the Starks. He would demand payment in advance and additional compensation. And punitive damages for the Stark's breaking of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, The Gizzard of Oz said: And punitive damages for the Stark's breaking of the contract. Robb gave them recompense by arranging a marriage with Edmure. But the psychotically petty weasel murdered thousands cuz his whittle feelings got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondo Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Hindsight as they say is perfect vision and Walder Frey should have asked for payment in advance before helping the Starks. But that in no way diminishes the seriousness of oath breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 That people valued a man's oath is proof most people do not break theirs. Walder never expected another lord to break a sworn oath. Robb did and it is a dishonor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Many-Faced Votary Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, The Lord of the Crossing said: That people valued a man's oath is proof most people do not break theirs. Walder never expected another lord to break a sworn oath. Robb did and it is a dishonor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Lord of the Crossing said: That people valued a man's oath is proof most people do not break theirs. Walder never expected another lord to break a sworn oath. Robb did and it is a dishonor. It is a dishonor, but marriages pacts are broken. Frequently. Robb gave them a perfectly replacement in his uncle, but the. The treacherous weasels broke a sacred law that no one but the sickest deviants ever breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Many-Faced Votary said: These people are deliberately obtuse. Honestly I’m ashamed that I even engaged them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Many-Faced Votary Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lord Edmure of Riverrun said: These people are deliberately obtuse. Honestly I’m ashamed that I even engaged them. I find them more amusing than anything, but I can't help but think they're throwing constant temper tantrums over their incorrect interpretations of fictional characters. At least there's some entertainment to be had in engaging sometimes! Don't feel bad for correcting nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 9:48 PM, King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd said: It is a dishonor, but marriages pacts are broken. Frequently. Robb gave them a perfectly replacement in his uncle, but the. The treacherous weasels broke a sacred law that no one but the sickest deviants ever breaks. The circumstances were not your typical marriage pact. Walder committed his family and soldiers to Robb. His heir as well as many of their men died for Robb. Then Robb betrays them by breaking his oath. You don't just trivialize what Robb did. Robb was a total scum. He apologized later but only after he realized he needed the Freys again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Lord of the Crossing said: The circumstances were not your typical marriage pact. Walder committed his family and soldiers to Robb. His heir as well as many of their men died for Robb. Then Robb betrays them by breaking his oath. You don't just trivialize what Robb did. Robb was a total scum. He apologized later but only after he realized he needed the Freys again. And you don't just trivialize what Walder Frey did either. He violated one of the most sacred oaths in Westeros. An oath that made Davos feel safe even from a man he regarded as a "robber-lord and breaker". Worse than robber-lords and breakers; that's the Freys for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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