Andrew Tate - sex trafficker

[Varysblackfyre321]

7 minutes ago, Fire and Jace said:

Then the burden is on decent people to provide better alternatives than

No matter how many people die or suffer at least some vague principle that flies against basic human nature was kept

7 minutes ago, Fire and Jace said:

we don't deserve to win. 

Utopian nonsense.

7 minutes ago, Fire and Jace said:

Nobler than furthering the persecution complex these people have by actually suppressing them. It doesn't work 

 

Prove it.

Actually give evidence that shows with increased platforming of virulent bigots like Tate or Fuentes actually leads to a decrease in their ideas being spread and the harm that comes with it.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Varysblackfyre321

[Jace, Extat]

I'm not condoning the algorithms that push these characters 

Or the cable news profit incentives that encourage replaying Donald's filth over and over again and treating it like serious political discourse

But you can't hide it

[kissdbyfire]

11 minutes ago, Fire and Jace said:

Nobler than furthering the persecution complex these people have by actually suppressing them. It doesn't work 

But what’s the answer then? If suppressing them doesn’t work and not suppressing them works even less, how to deal w/ it?

[kissdbyfire]

18 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Hey remember when major networks kept giving trump’s rallies nonstop coverage in 2016?

Isn’t it a bit different now? Genuine question, I’m curious b/c my only view into this is from the outside. But looking from the outside, it seems there was a rejection of extreme maga n the midterms… which is great but maybe not enough yet. 

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

33 minutes ago, kiko said:

that's disgusting 

Yeah, very graphic. Don't make it not true. 

Extortion is more likely I think. 

14 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Hey remember when major networks kept giving trump’s rallies nonstop coverage in 2016?

Tons of softball interviews too. "Hey Mr. Trump, you must be having so much fun."  Whereas Bernie Sanders gets on CNN and they open with, "So tell us how you're not like Stalin." or some such.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/03/how-media-iced-out-bernie-sanders-helped-donald-trump-win

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The Tyndall Report analyzed major-network campaign coverage in 2015. In over 1,000 minutes of national broadcast television airtime devoted to all the campaigns, Donald Trump received 327 minutes, or close to one-third of all the campaign coverage. Bernie Sanders received just 20 minutes. Hillary Clinton got 121 minutes of campaign coverage, six times the amount Sanders received. "ABC World News Tonight" aired 81 minutes of reports on Donald Trump, compared with just 20 seconds for Sanders.

 

[Jace, Extat]

1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said:

But what’s the answer then? If suppressing them doesn’t work and not suppressing them works even less, how to deal w/ it?

Yo we have serious issus with the way big business and profit incentives clash with the susceptibility of our political processes. 

To say nothing of the gleeful crippling of the legislative branch, naked partisanship in the legislative, and a government that can't even do basic tasks without Executive Order. 

None of those problems are easy to fix, but by refusing to address them in favor of easy solutions that I guarantee you will be turned against you, you will validate these people you're trying to suppress. 

Edit-basic grammar

Spellcheck is for the weak

Edited December 31, 2022 by Fire and Jace

[kissdbyfire]

10 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Yeah, very graphic. Don't make it not true. 

Extortion is more likely I think. 

Tons of softball interviews too. "Hey Mr. Trump, you must be having so much fun."  Whereas Bernie Sanders gets on CNN and they open with, "So tell us how you're not like Stalin." or some such.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/03/how-media-iced-out-bernie-sanders-helped-donald-trump-win

 

This x 1,000. And at least part of it is celebrity culture & celebrity worship in the times of social media. 

[Varysblackfyre321]

31 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

But what’s the answer then? If suppressing them doesn’t work and not suppressing them works even less, how to deal w/ it?

I remember you from our discussion in the book thread. I don’t remember what we disagreed but I maintain I was right

[kissdbyfire]

Just now, Varysblackfyre321 said:

I remember you from our discussion in the book thread. I don’t remember what we disagreed but I maintain I was right

I see. I, otoh, make no claims at remembering anything. So, I ask you, how can you be so sure we disagreed at all? 

[Varysblackfyre321]

1 hour ago, Fire and Jace said:

But you can't hide it

Tell me what the NH libertarian party tweeted about democracy a few days ago without googling it.

 

[Jace, Extat]

I cannot, and do not understand rhe exercise

I anticipate the lesson

[polishgenius]

Man, suppression totally doesn't work. That's why we're constantly hearing about that Milo dude all the time.

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

We are?

 

[kissdbyfire]

2 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Tell me what the NH libertarian party tweeted about democracy a few days ago without googling it.

 

Are you talking about the masking thing? 
 

[Jace, Extat]

Just now, polishgenius said:

Man, suppression totally doesn't work. That's why we're constantly hearing about that Milo dude all the time.

He literally outed himself as a pedo with his free speech, didn't he???

Like isn't that what happened? I don't mean to come off like an expert but I thought he went on some podcast and ran his mouth and that was it for him

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

2 hours ago, kiko said:

that's disgusting 

 

1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Yeah, very graphic. Don't make it not true. 

Extortion is more likely I think. 

 

p.s. Besides you silly billy, I one-thousand-percent guarantee you he had his asshole waxed and bleached long before he went to prison. Smewth as a porcelain doll.

GRRRRRR!!! WHYDIDN'TITHINKOFTHATTHEFIRSTTIMEIRESPONDEDMOTHERF!#%!^@#!!!! 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Deadlines? What Deadlines?

[Varysblackfyre321]

7 minutes ago, Fire and Jace said:

He literally outed himself as a pedo with his free speech, didn't he???

Yeah after a myriad of viciously racist, xenophobic, and homophobic advocacy that converted loads of people to extremism he got canceled.

if he made his comments about underage girls he wouldn’t even face that.

Matt Walsh’s comments concerning underage girls are on par or worse than Milo’s for example.

And the right wing has steadily tried to rehabilitate his image.

 

[polishgenius]

1 minute ago, Fire and Jace said:

He literally outed himself as a pedo with his free speech, didn't he???

Like isn't that what happened? I don't mean to come off like an expert but I thought he went on some podcast and ran his mouth and that was it for him

 

 

Tate has been outing himself as a rapist and he was getting more and more attention till the authorities actually arrested him. 6ix9ine was convicted of creating child pornography and he didn't lose public attention till he started snitching after his RICO charge. Roman Polanski is a convicted child rapist and he's got to make movies till he dies.


Even being a known nonce wouldn't have put Milo out of commission if certain people controlling the output hadn't collectively decided it was so.  

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

29 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

We are?

 

That's the joke. He was snuffed out quickly. It's weird when you hear him brought up these days.

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

49 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

That's the joke. He was snuffed out quickly. It's weird when you hear him brought up these days.

Yeah, but he doesn't have the same caché now that he isn't pwning the libs by being Republicans' sassy gay friend.

Also without tons of Mercer (or whoever his benefactor was) cash supporting him