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12 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Are you even thinking when you type stuff?

Are you?  Because you just rambled on acting like Meghan Markle - a woman that persisted long enough to actually break into Hollywood her entire adult life - wouldn't understand how reality TV and subsequent media appeal works.  She does, more than you or me.  Like, isn't that part and parcel why you hate her so much?  You can't have it both ways. 

I know, it's just SO frustrating they made money off their celebrity -- and will continue to.  Grr!  But those are the facts.  Get over it.  Find an outlet.  Play golf, maybe.  I dunno.  But your whining is just empirically wrong.  And always will be wrong. 

Do you even think when you type this pathetically wrong stuff?

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8 minutes ago, DMC said:

I'm saying you're using your combat experience to cast aspersions on Harry.  Why and in what manner?  I don't fucking know your motives but the conduct is clear.  My response is directly in regard to your two posts saying this:

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If you don't see how that's shitting on Harry's record while posing as if you "know better" because of your own experience, I can't help you.  And this isn't the first time.  You play off your expertise and act as if others "just don't understand."  And then you obfuscate.  Maybe you learned that in the military, I dunno, but it's dumbass horseshit and I'm growing tired of it.

DMC -- oof, you're clearly confused. You claimed I used my combat experience to cast aspersions against Harry when I did no such thing, even when considering the quotes you provided. Look again, and please feel free to tap other threads where you think I may have used my experience unfairly against others. Amusingly, the only one who mentioned my combat experience here was ... you!

Your second point of confusion involved you accusing me of "shitting on Harry's record," which is the opposite of what I actually wrote. In fact, the only comments I made on his military record was one of respectability. Granted, I do think his claim of killing 25 people was cringey and unseemly, but that's a criticism on his broadcasting it to the general audience, not against his record.

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5 minutes ago, DMC said:

Are you?  Because you just rambled on acting like Meghan Markle - a woman that persisted long enough to actually break into Hollywood her entire adult life - wouldn't understand how reality TV and subsequent media appeal works.  She does, more than you or me.  Like, isn't that part and parcel why you hate her so much?  You can't have it both ways. 

I know, it's just SO frustrating they made money off their celebrity -- and will continue to.  Grr!  But those are the facts.  Get over it.  Find an outlet.  Play golf, maybe.  I dunno.  But your whining is just empirically wrong.  And always will be wrong. 

Do you even think when you type this pathetically wrong stuff?

Lol, I’m not sure that is really an answer is it? It amounts to ‘Trust in the Holy Meghan’ to know best.

Well we know she managed to get a solitary part on a successful soap. That’s about the extent of what we can learn about her. We know she is obsessed with her image and despite her protestations about press intrusion she is incredibly controlling over her image, one of the reasons bad press upsets her so much. 
 

Thing is, I’m honest about my dislike of the Sussex’s, you seem to claim you don’t care but you are still here, still writing endless defences of them.. what’s up with that?

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Bragging about killing people when your country is an invasionary beligerant is pretty gross. Its not like Harry was defending Windsor Castle or something.

If he was called to serve fine, but Afghan and Iraq contests were both debateable if the West had any moral standing as occupiers. Its that dubious or debateable standing that should temper ones hubris or humble ones need to brag over a kill count. Agreeing its cringey.

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[mod] Take a minute, folks, and don't post angry. No personal attacks, please. You're all entitled to your opinions, including opinions about each other, but we don't want threads devolving into flame wars. [/mod]

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@BBB Jacelyn -- nah; you're fine and didn't compel me to say anything wrong. I don't think anyone in their right mind would approve of broadcasting to the world that they killed 25 people. Harry was (and should be) criticized for it.

You, of all people, are always right (at least to me) :wub:

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10 hours ago, Werthead said:

I think that whilst they are better regarded, they are not as well-regarded as they were a few years ago, when there was widespread talk and even enthusiasm for Charles to refuse the crown and William to become a trendy(ish), young(ish) king with a reasonable chance of being monarch for the next 50 years. I think the constant stories about William being an arsehole to his brother and his wife, regardless of provocation (instead of taking a dignified silence as how the Queen rolled), did not do him any favours and the recent stories from multiple sources suggesting William's unfaithfulness and, er, specialist interests do seem to have gotten traction, albeit nowhere near as much as if we didn't have Andrew and Harry's soap opera dominating the news.

William's apparent defence of Andrew, and the entire Royal Family's tolerance for him, has really gone down like a lead balloon. If Harry really wanted to make some ground back, he could discuss that situation (although I suspect his lawyers have stringently argued against it).

I admit I was not aware of … specialist interests.

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1 hour ago, Heartofice said:

Well we know she managed to get a solitary part on a successful soap. That’s about the extent of what we can learn about her. We know she is obsessed with her image and despite her protestations about press intrusion she is incredibly controlling over her image, one of the reasons bad press upsets her so much. 
 

Thing is, I’m honest about my dislike of the Sussex’s, you seem to claim you don’t care but you are still here, still writing endless defences of them.. what’s up with that?

Ok, let's try this again.  The "extent" of what we've learned of her you are expressing is blatantly just dismissive hatred.  Not only are you boiling down her CV to one part, you're asserting that's all we can know about her.  Which suggests that's all YOU want to know about her.  And that's fine!  Frankly I don't care to know much about her either.

But the pathetic thing is you use this to character assassinate someone who you don't know much about.  And, of course, you're not the only one.  You are honest about your dislike of "the Sussex's"?  That's great.  I am honest about my dislike for the jelly monsters that have nothing better to do than try to cut them down.  Because THAT is sad and pathetic.

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Never been a Specialist, myself. Though everyone always takes note of how special I am.

Appropos of nothing, is there an E-3 this year? Fuckup like me, I never do seem to stay on pace :)

but eh, that's what youths are for right? Getting lapped?

 

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3 minutes ago, DMC said:

Ok, let's try this again.  The "extent" of what we've learned of her you are expressing is blatantly just dismissive hatred.  Not only are you boiling down her CV to one part, you're asserting that's all we can know about her.  Which suggests that's all YOU want to know about her.  And that's fine!  Frankly I don't care to know much about her either.

But the pathetic thing is you use this to character assassinate someone who you don't know much about.  And, of course, you're not the only one.  You are honest about your dislike of "the Sussex's"?  That's great.  I am honest about my dislike for the jelly monsters that have nothing better to do than try to cut them down.  Because THAT is sad and pathetic.

Ok, well lets try it again then.

What I have learnt about her is very much based on her own interaction with the media, her actions and the things she says and what others say about her. It isn't pulling stuff out of my ass. I'm judging her based on the things she says and does. You seem to think that is unfair, yet you and those who defend her are making assumptions about her based on the very same information. I don't suppose you have ever said anything negative about anyone on this board ever?


Firstly, as to her CV, lets be clear, Markle was a pretty nondescript actress who up till her role in Suits was basically struggling to get good roles, she is not some media mastermind, so I'm not sure why you would try and paint her as such. She has managed to get one good acting role in her entire career. 

What I will say though, is that my dislike of her is partly fuelled by the baffling defence of her that others seem to have, that somehow critique of her not allowed, but if say we did just all sit here and slag off the Kardashians then that is total fair game. Why is there a difference? Why is saying terrible things about Kim & co pretty ok, but saying bad things about Meghan "disgusting"? Some strange rules being written here. 

The other part of why she gets my goat, is that she just represents pretty much everything wrong with modern millenniel thinking. 
She's self aggrandising, she lies continuously, she pulls out the race card whenever she gets even a modicum of criticism, she has a history of treating the people she works with and her family like dirt but tries to project a spotless image, she blames others for her issues. She pretends to be down to earth and normal whilst seeming to NEED luxury and expensive stuff, she makes vacuous and empty gestures towards progressive causes as a way of making herself look better. Thats not even talking about the way to which I believe she has manipulated people in her life emotionally to get what she wants.

Yes I think she is a trash person. If I talk about it, its only because everyone else seems to be just buy her bullshit and eat it all up like a good little boy.  Heres the thing, my opinion is really not that unusual here in the UK, we can all see through her crap, its really obvious to us, which is why she is so unpopular. It's just odd you guys can't, but then maybe you are part of the problem
 

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3 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

You seem to think that is unfair, yet you and those who defend her are making assumptions about her based on the very same information. I don't suppose you have ever said anything negative about anyone on this board ever?

Of course I've said negative things about just about everyone on this board - including myself.  I'm a drunk arrogant asshole that frequently makes a fool of himself btw.  And - more importantly - I've said plenty of negative things about Harry and Meghan.  That's not what this is about dude, c'mon.  You think my comparison to them to the Kardashians is supposed to be complimentary?

It's just the persistence and intensity of your hatred, and flagrantly wrong insistence that the Megxit move wasn't financially successful, is pathetic.

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Just now, DMC said:

It's just the persistence and intensity of your hatred, and flagrantly wrong insistence that the Megxit move wasn't financially successful, is pathetic.

Again you keep using words like disgusting and pathetic but why? What is so wrong with disliking her?what makes her a special case?

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1 minute ago, Heartofice said:

Again you keep using words like disgusting and pathetic but why? What is so wrong with disliking her?what makes her a special case?

I hope, one day, you will look in the mirror and ask yourself these exact questions.

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Just now, DMC said:

I hope, one day, you will look in the mirror and ask yourself these exact questions.

Ok well let’s leave it here then. You haven’t chosen to answer anything I’ve said with anything coherent or based on any sort of logic and i don’t think you are going to so I’ll leave you to go sober up and maybe we can continue if you choose to write something of value. 

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4 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

You haven’t chosen to answer anything I’ve said with anything coherent or based on any sort of logic

Heh!  What have you said that is derived from any sort of logic?  I'm fine leaving this alone but don't give me that bullshit.  This is all based on your hatred for a couple.  There's no "logic" going on.  Just your animus.  But please -- by all means -- explain your logic to me.

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23 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Ok, well lets try it again then.

What I have learnt about her is very much based on her own interaction with the media, her actions and the things she says and what others say about her. It isn't pulling stuff out of my ass. I'm judging her based on the things she says and does. You seem to think that is unfair, yet you and those who defend her are making assumptions about her based on the very same information. I don't suppose you have ever said anything negative about anyone on this board ever?


Firstly, as to her CV, lets be clear, Markle was a pretty nondescript actress who up till her role in Suits was basically struggling to get good roles, she is not some media mastermind, so I'm not sure why you would try and paint her as such. She has managed to get one good acting role in her entire career. 

What I will say though, is that my dislike of her is partly fuelled by the baffling defence of her that others seem to have, that somehow critique of her not allowed, but if say we did just all sit here and slag off the Kardashians then that is total fair game. Why is there a difference? Why is saying terrible things about Kim & co pretty ok, but saying bad things about Meghan "disgusting"? Some strange rules being written here. 

The other part of why she gets my goat, is that she just represents pretty much everything wrong with modern millenniel thinking. 
She's self aggrandising, she lies continuously, she pulls out the race card whenever she gets even a modicum of criticism, she has a history of treating the people she works with and her family like dirt but tries to project a spotless image, she blames others for her issues. She pretends to be down to earth and normal whilst seeming to NEED luxury and expensive stuff, she makes vacuous and empty gestures towards progressive causes as a way of making herself look better. Thats not even talking about the way to which I believe she has manipulated people in her life emotionally to get what she wants.

Yes I think she is a trash person. If I talk about it, its only because everyone else seems to be just buy her bullshit and eat it all up like a good little boy.  Heres the thing, my opinion is really not that unusual here in the UK, we can all see through her crap, its really obvious to us, which is why she is so unpopular. It's just odd you guys can't, but then maybe you are part of the problem
 

I'm not sure why you see the need to depict Meghan's early struggles as an actress as some kind of character flaw, rather than a reality of the profession, or to diminish her as a 'soap actress'. I can't say I ever saw the show she was in but she seems to have been a well paid lead in a long running legal drama. She had a career, supported herself and worked successfully with the same group of people for 7 years. You don't have to like Meghan but working for a living seems a strange thing to base that dislike on, albeit it is unusual for a Royal bride.

I don't know about Meghan but I do know that the British tabloid press is utter scum and if they decide to vilify someone, I view that with a huge pinch of salt. The Royal family also have form in chewing up and spitting out any woman joining them who can't squeeze her personality into the required docile helpmeet mould.

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1 hour ago, SeanF said:

I admit I was not aware of … specialist interests.

He’s apparently into pegging. Kate isnt, hence why he’s been looking elsewhere. Including allegedly Kate’s former best friend.

Few years ago there was apparently an injunction to stop the English press reportong on the alleged affair, instead smearing Harry/Meghan. 

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1 minute ago, Wall Flower said:

I'm not sure why you see the need to depict Meghan's early struggles as an actress as some kind of character flaw, rather than a reality of the profession, or to diminish her as a 'soap actress'. I can't say I ever saw the show she was in but she seems to have been a well paid lead in a long running legal drama. She had a career, supported herself and worked successfully with the same group of people for 7 years. You don't have to like Meghan but working for a living seems a strange thing to base that dislike on, albeit it is unusual for a Royal bride.

I’m not. I’m responding to the idea that Meghan knows all about creating media due to her successful career as an actress. Point being, she’s only managed one role in a one show in her entire career as an actress. She is no mastermind or expert in media. In fact going by the way she has scored own goal after own goal she seems to be quite bad at it

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