Gaston de Foix Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 My favorite George Santos fact is that he lied about participating in the Jan 6 insurrection.  Spockydog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 28 minutes ago, James Arryn said: Sweet, now I know who fat Joaquin Phoenix will play in the movie about this. Santos reportedly just said he would be played by River Phoenix. He claims they agreed on it over lunch today. James Arryn, Argonath Diver, LongRider and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 @Tywin et al. big deal if he took a bribe donation from a person who is not a US Citizen, neither is he!  Jace, Extat, Martell Spy and Tywin et al. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 It’s amazing how the US is surpassing terf island’s transphobia so quickly. JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 'Lost their minds': Missouri Dems cry foul over GOP-proposed dress code for female state lawmakers https://www.rawstory.com/missouri-dress-code/ These same guys lost their shit at being requested to wear masks in the pandemic but want to tell women to mask their arms.  What fucking hell are we in? ~~~~~~~~~~~ Also the Queens GOP chair says so what re santos lies. It's not a crime. Jace, Extat, Ser Scot A Ellison and Mindwalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 54 minutes ago, Zorral said: 'Lost their minds': Missouri Dems cry foul over GOP-proposed dress code for female state lawmakers https://www.rawstory.com/missouri-dress-code/ These same guys lost their shit at being requested to wear masks in the pandemic but want to tell women to mask their arms.  What fucking hell are we in? ~~~~~~~~~~~ Also the Queens GOP chair says so what re santos lies. It's not a crime. Eventually they will try to ban women from cutting their hair beyond a certain length Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Why do I suspect that, if looked at closely overall, we'd find a handful of documents here, possibly there, after any presidential term in office. Not even maliciously. That it is something that is quietly fixed by the White House, the staff of the former Presidents, and the NARA. That Trump willfully and deliberately took as much as he did and then lied about it is the story. That needs to be focused on. Â Â Jace, Extat, Ser Scot A Ellison, ants and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Stephen Colbert Spots Surest Sign Yet That George Santos Is Toast The GOP lawmaker is facing growing calls to step down, including from within his own party. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephen-colbert-george-santos_n_63bfb82ae4b0d6f0ba014403 Quote  Stephen Colbert had an explanation for a new report that finds embattled Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) claimed to have loaned $705,000 to his 2020 campaign despite records that indicated he had just $55,000 to his name. “Fair enough,” Colbert said. “But what about all of his other names?” Santos, an accused serial liar, reportedly used at least two other aliases in recent years, as Colbert noted. “He has so many aliases he had to swear on two Bibles and a Torah,” Colbert cracked.   Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudguard Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Why do I suspect that, if looked at closely overall, we'd find a handful of documents here, possibly there, after any presidential term in office. Not even maliciously. That it is something that is quietly fixed by the White House, the staff of the former Presidents, and the NARA. That Trump willfully and deliberately took as much as he did and then lied about it is the story. That needs to be focused on.   If it was just regular confidential information, OK, no big deal. But some information, such as sensitive compartmented information (SCI), is supposed to be only handled and stored in a special facility. SCI, if handled properly, should never have been able to end up in his personal office. SCI can contain information about your sources and if obtained by the wrong party, can potentially lead to your sources getting killed. We don't know if that type of SCI was found in Biden's case, but really, he should stop taking SCI out of the secured SCI facilities so this doesn't accidentally happen. Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 This isn't any kind of significant story if Trump hasn't acted in a blatantly illegal manner regarding these things.   That's not too say there hasn't been a breach in protocol. But because Biden's people appear to be addressing it correctly, there's no guarantee the general public would even know about this if not for Trump. The media is really trying to force an equivalency here.   Prince of the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudguard Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I don't really care about the media coverage of these stories. Sure, Trump is worse, but Biden's handling of confidential information is bad. That Trump is worse doesn't absolve Biden of being so sloppy. To me, the real problem is that sloppy handling of top secret and SCI can damage national security, and in the worse case, get people killed. Hopefully, that hasn't happened in either Trump or Biden's cases, but we'll never know because they can't disclose the contents of the information. Generally speaking, there needs to be some sort of punishment when breaking protocol to deter people from treating this information so sloppily. Wade1865 and Jace, Extat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Special counsel appointed:Â https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/12/special-counsel-biden-classified-documents-00077734?cid=hptb_secondary_0 Wade1865 and Jace, Extat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Say what you will about Merrick Garland, but I always said he could be quick and efficient as long as the alleged culprit was a Democrat. Edited January 12 by Mindwalker Gaston de Foix, Jace, Extat, Wade1865 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I fully expect Republicans to start complaining that Biden got a special counsel much faster than any Trump ever did... Martell Spy, Ser Scot A Ellison, Mindwalker and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 What will Trumpanistas complain about now that a Special Counsel has been appointed to investigate Biden’s screw up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 36 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: What will Trumpanistas complain about now that a Special Counsel has been appointed to investigate Biden’s screw up? They'll complain about (i) why a special counsel wasn't appointed earlier if Biden lawyer's notified the DOJ in November; (ii) why a special counsel was only appointed after the story went public; (iii) why the special counsel hasn't charged Biden yet; (iv) how Biden's special counsel's uncle's dog-groomer's best man once donated to Dukakis and how that makes him biased; (v) why special counsel are unconstitutional; (vi) why can't Merrick Garland just man up and take responsibility and excuse both Presidents. (viii) how come Trump's guy has a beard and Biden's guy doesn't. etc. etc. trust me, they'll find something to complain about. Ser Scot A Ellison, Prince of the North, Jace, Extat and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Clearly he should have just taken the advice of an earlier Vice President and stashed it away in something we like to call a "lock box." Ser Scot A Ellison and Jace, Extat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The problem with this equivalency stuff is whatever punishment Republicans want to be heaped on Biden will have to be the minimum that applies to Trump. Both were inarguably in possession of classified material while being private citizens. The last thing Republicans want (perhaps aside from the never-Trumpers, if there are any left) is for Biden to be found guilty of anything, because that will mean Trump is also guilty of at least the same things as well as being guilty of obstruction. The worst thing that can happen to the current administration is Biden leaves office and Kamala Harris becomes President. I think Republicans don't want President Harris for even 1 day. But if Biden is forced to leave office it means Trump will never get to run for office ever again. They need Biden to get off Scott free and for there to be no question of it being a whitewash. I wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice Biden to keep Trump away from political office for the rest of time. ants and Jace, Extat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalnak the Magnificent Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: The problem with this equivalency stuff is whatever punishment Republicans want to be heaped on Biden will have to be the minimum that applies to Trump. Both were inarguably in possession of classified material while being private citizens. The last thing Republicans want (perhaps aside from the never-Trumpers, if there are any left) is for Biden to be found guilty of anything, because that will mean Trump is also guilty of at least the same things as well as being guilty of obstruction. Hah, that's funny! It's almost as if you believe that the US is governed by laws that apply equally to everyone! 3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: The worst thing that can happen to the current administration is Biden leaves office and Kamala Harris becomes President. I think Republicans don't want President Harris for even 1 day. But if Biden is forced to leave office it means Trump will never get to run for office ever again. They need Biden to get off Scott free and for there to be no question of it being a whitewash. I wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice Biden to keep Trump away from political office for the rest of time. Oh man, this is hilarious - keep it coming! Mindwalker, Jace, Extat and Wade1865 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Kalnestk Oblast said: Hah, that's funny! It's almost as if you believe that the US is governed by laws that apply equally to everyone! Dunno how you come to that conclusion. I can expect that whatever happens to Biden will happen to Trump where the alleged sin falls in the same ballpark. After all they enjoy the same ruling elite class and status privilege. I don't expect the current system to apply the same consequences to presidents and ex-presidents that apply to the person on the street. But I do expect ex-presidents to be subject to at least the same consequences as sitting presidents. Jace, Extat, Larry of the Lawn and Kalnak the Magnificent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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