Craving Peaches Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Jon’s death? What death? Has a new book been published that I’m unaware of by any chance? Did you not hear? 'A Struggle with Starks ' is out now. Jon, Sansa, Bran and Rickon all die on the first page. Daenerys then magically teleports all her armies to Westeros while conquering everywhere else in Essos. They are completely unaffected by the food shortage. Dothraki and Unsullied just mow down any opposition. Daenerys becomes Empress of the new Great Empire of the Dawn. Then she and the good Roose Bolton and the honourable Walder Frey go north to fight Snowhead/Snow Wight/Snowflake who's come back as a special wight and is the betrayer of all humanity and is leading the undead to kill everyone because he's gone mad over Arya. Arya blows up King's Landing before dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Did you not hear? 'A Struggle with Starks ' is out now. Jon, Sansa, Bran and Rickon all die on the first page. Daenerys then magically teleports all her armies to Westeros while conquering everywhere else in Essos. They are completely unaffected by the food shortage. Dothraki and Unsullied just mow down any opposition. Daenerys becomes Empress of the new Great Empire of the Dawn. Then she and the good Roose Bolton and the honourable Walder Frey go north to fight Snowhead/Snow Wight/Snowflake who's come back as a special wight and is the betrayer of all humanity and is leading the undead to kill everyone because he's gone mad over Arya. Arya blows up King's Landing before dying. I may have heard about actually… Does little evil incarnate Rickon the Insane eat the corpses of their enemies while Sansa goes mad and is revealed to be the corpse queen of legend and Bran tries to do very nasty and evil shit but goes insane (I’m sensing a theme here) and skinchanges himself causing all land beyond the Wall to be sucked into a ginormous black hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, kissdbyfire said: I may have heard about actually… Does little evil incarnate Rickon the Insane eat the corpses of their enemies while Sansa goes mad and is revealed to be the corpse queen of legend and Bran tries to do very nasty and evil shit but goes insane (I’m sensing a theme here) and skinchanges himself causing all land beyond the Wall to be sucked into a ginormous black hole? Yes, all those things happen in the prologue. Then they die. My mistake. And don't forget when evil Sansa and Harry murder Sweetrobin due to their lust for power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Yes, all those things happen in the prologue. Then they die. My mistake. And don't forget when evil Sansa and Harry murder Sweetrobin due to their lust for power. Well, good that we’re rid of all the evul and insane Starks in the prologue, thus leaving all remaining pages for what really matters in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Wait! Wait! Wait! Does this wonderful book mention who took Sansa's maidenhead? Was it, in no particular order: Littlefinger Hot Pie Tormund Harry the Heir Dolorus Edd Mance Stannis Doran Martell Darkstar Sandor Theon Bronze Yohn Royce Sweet Robin Tyrion Jamie Thoros Gendy fAgeon Daario Roose Wilas Loras Ser Shadrich please, anybody, anybody except Bowen Marsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, LongRider said: Harry the Heir Harry and Sansa are the pairing. They bond over their mutual extreme lust for power. They have no qualms about murdering Sweetrobin to further their position. Sansa did not take much convincing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Harry and Sansa are the pairing. They bond over their mutual extreme lust for power. They have no qualms about murdering Sweetrobin to further their position. Sansa did not take much convincing at all. And Rickon ate Sweetrobin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: And Rickon ate Sweetrobin. Yes, they gave him the body in exchange for the Skagosi killing their enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The Skagosi killed all the Starks, brought down the Wall and bonded with the Others, their long lost brothers. TWIST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, LongRider said: The Skagosi killed all the Starks, brought down the Wall and bonded with the Others, their long lost brothers. TWIST! The Skagosi, for thousands of years, practiced blood magic, human sacrifice, and slavery. They’ve committed genocide countless times and have violated the natural laws of man. Wait…… Did I say Skagosi? I meant the Targaryens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wadsworth Longfellow Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 8:09 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: "The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep." (from "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening," by Robert Frost) Jon Snow's dying thoughts were of Arya Stark. I expect Jon Snow will be raised from death by the Others and come back as a wight. He will use his short, remaining time among the living to find Arya. They will both die and get second lives as direwolves. The "promises to keep," you would think is his duty to stop the Others. I think Jon stopped caring about that and his only thoughts from this point will be revenge and finding Arya. The Others have the power of necromancy. I think that is how Jon will get a temporary reprieve from death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Fenimore Cooper XXII Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 7:24 PM, H Wadsworth Longfellow said: The Others have the power of necromancy. I think that is how Jon will get a temporary reprieve from death. Wights are not alive. Not the kind of life we know. They can move about physically and have lost much of their mind. The difference in Jon's specific example is his warg ability. HIs mind will find a new host in Ghost. Ghost the Host. So as his body goes into slow decay his mind will continue to function. Albeit getting more and more savage with each passing day. With each passing hour what was left of his human reason will slowly decay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Green Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: Wights are not alive. Not the kind of life we know. They can move about physically and have lost much of their mind. The difference in Jon's specific example is his warg ability. HIs mind will find a new host in Ghost. Ghost the Host. So as his body goes into slow decay his mind will continue to function. Albeit getting more and more savage with each passing day. With each passing hour what was left of his human reason will slowly decay too. Theory: Mel wrote the Pink Letter. She did it to trick Jon into taking her warnings seriously. It worked. Fact: After Jon receives the Pink Letter, Jon seems to start taking Mel's warnings more seriously. We know Jon and Tormund then did some secret plotting offscreen. We were not privy to this plotting. Theory: The plotting ultimately involved a plan to have Mel's vision come true, without Jon actually dying. Mel was consulted. Mel glamored Cregan Karstark to resemble Jon. And, since Karstark had grown feebleminded, Jon was able to skinchange him (just as Bran could skinchange Hodor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Jon’s story is not done. Plain and simple. His destiny is to fight the Others, and he won’t die until the fight is over. He either isn’t dead yet, or will return somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Green Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 As I see it, nothing good whatsoever comes out of Jon becoming a wight. Any positive future for him depends on his being alive. This might conceivably include a sort of half-life as a Direwolf. But no good comes out of his re-animated corpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U. B. Cool Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 He died but will be back long enough to help kill Ramsay and further destabilize the North. His mind is always on Arya. They will see each other again perhaps. Either as wights or as direwolves. The Stark pack will be together in some form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 hours ago, U. B. Cool said: He died but will be back long enough to help kill Ramsay and further destabilize the North. His mind is always on Arya. They will see each other again perhaps. Either as wights or as direwolves. The Stark pack will be together in some form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he's dead, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Many-Faced Votary Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Lilac & Gooseberries said: GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he's dead, do you? I kind of hope for his sake that he is, because somehow surviving numerous stab wounds of lethal intent in a medieval setting would not be a fun experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Many-Faced Votary said: I kind of hope for his sake that he is, because somehow surviving numerous stab wounds of lethal intent in a medieval setting would not be a fun experience. Yeah he is coming back a wee bit cranky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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