Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: think this is a bit of misleading, agenda reporting. Probably to some extent, controversy sells. 34 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Tate isnt a patheitic man baby who i hope gets locked uo for about 1000 year I’m curious if it’s possible to extradite to England to get tried for rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 labour won't let Corbyn stand at the next election, apparently he is mulling over an independent bid. I'm deeply conflicted about Corbyn, I think he is a decent and honourable man, but a stubborn old goat who can't see the damage his side of the party do to the chances of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: labour won't let Corbyn stand at the next election, apparently he is mulling over an independent bid. I'm deeply conflicted about Corbyn, I think he is a decent and honourable man, but a stubborn old goat who can't see the damage his side of the party do to the chances of winning. Also looks like Sturgeon is stepping down, so a good day all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Moving on to hopefully a more informed take - Curious what the Scots on the board think and who might be a possible replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Raja said: Moving on to hopefully a more informed take - Curious what the Scots on the board think and who might be a possible replacement? I’m sure we know what the Scot’s in this board think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Raja said: Moving on to hopefully a more informed take - Curious what the Scots on the board think and who might be a possible replacement? Very few obvious candidates. A few who think they're obvious candidates, some of whom may be thinking this is a triumph for them: they're going to find it's a disaster. There's been very little actual succession planning. John Swinney is probably the safe choice. Joanna Cherry might fancy her chances but she can't credibly lead from Westminster. Kate Forbes is talked about as a future leader but may not have the support yet. Nobody who has the electoral appeal or skill that Sturgeon has, that's for sure. She's been clearly the most successful UK politician of the last decade. ETA - to clarify why I think this could be a disaster for the candidates involved. I don't think any of them have the clout within the party to keep it as united as it has been for the last ten years. Whoever takes over will still be favourite to win the next Scottish election, but they'll struggle to keep order internally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 It’s unfortunate for Nicola, she was asked the most difficult question in politics: ‘what is a woman’. Bit unfair on her to have to try and answer that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Prime example of how the people that fill the air with conversation about trans people aren't actually those that support us. The conversion is about Sturgeon, not us ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Indeed. Classless & amoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Hmmm, trying to pretend her recent terrible interviews and her unpopular GRC bill played no part in her resignation. The timing is not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Even if you think that angle is essential to the conversion, there's an ocean between discussing that sincerely and the bullshit snark you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Personally I think she deserves the snark. But at the same time we all recognise that there is a reason why that question keeps getting thrown at politicians, because it just highlights the absolute flaws in a lot of their thinking, and how ideologically captured they are. These recent weeks have really exposed Sturgeon in a way that she hasn't experienced before, she really could not handle being challenged on the Bryson case at all, you could see the way the pressure was hitting her. Of course it's not the only reason she's quitting now, but its certainly a big player in her decision I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, karaddin said: Even if you think that angle is essential to the conversion, there's an ocean between discussing that sincerely and the bullshit snark you posted In the effort to find some news on TV that wasn't Nicola Sturgeon quits we ended up turning to GB news - for a laugh. Turns out they are majourly pushing the Trans/Gender thing. when GB news are the only ones pushing your viewpoint then that really is an indication your viewpoint might be one shared by the mouth frothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 You pretend the snark was directed at her but it wasn't, it was at the idea of trans people. That question keeps coming up because people that insist they can know the truth of someone else better than that person can know themselves act like a group numbering less than 1% of the population with extremely limited wealth and power are a threat to everyone else. And because cynical assholes use it as a wedge to divide groups that should be united. This is at HoI obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: In the effort to find some news on TV that wasn't Nicola Sturgeon quits we ended up turning to GB news - for a laugh. Turns out they are majourly pushing the Trans/Gender thing. when GB news are the only ones pushing your viewpoint then that really is an indication your viewpoint might be one shared by the mouth frothers. So are you saying it's only GB news suggesting that the GRC bill had any effect on her resignation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 They're bigots, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, karaddin said: You pretend the snark was directed at her but it wasn't, it was at the idea of trans people. That question keeps coming up because people that insist they can know the truth of someone else better than that person can know themselves act like a group numbering less than 1% of the population with extremely limited wealth and power are a threat to everyone else. And because cynical assholes use it as a wedge to divide groups that should be united. This is at HoI obviously. I think you should actually read what I wrote instead of continuously attributing opinions to me based on nothing I've said. It's quite tiring when you do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The BBC have a 30 year old and a 32 year old as 2 of the favourites, what the f'ck am i doing with my life. I know how Caesar must have felt when considering the achievements of Alexander the Great. 'I have not just cause to weep, when I consider that Alexander at my age had conquered so many nations, and I have all this time done nothing that is memorable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I wonder how much Jacinda Ardern’s resignation influenced Sturgeon’s decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: recent terrible interviews You will never forgive her for not misgendering a trans woman will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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