Alester Florent Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Having been major fixtures in the first two books in the series, Shagga son of Dolf (the best-named character in ASoIaF) and co. departed remarkably quickly. When they first appeared, it seemed that this plot was going to go somewhere, with Tyrion contemplating - even if just to get the Vale mountain clans on side - an uprising against the powers that be in the Vale. And unless I'm forgetting something nothing has happened on this since, with the Vale clans getting scarcely a mention since they were kicked out of King's Landing after the Blackwater. Now, the only person who has ever shown any real interest in the Vale clans is Tyrion, and they were loyal to him in a way that only really Bronn matches - and even then Bronn's loyalty was explicitly mercenary (even if there came to be a degree of personal loyalty too). So perhaps nothing is likely to happen with the Vale clans until Tyrion gets to the Vale again, which he might not ever. And in any case a clan uprising would probably not trouble any PoVs outside the Vale. But we do have a Vale PoV, and as it happens, that character is Tyrion's wife. Sansa is perhaps the only person currently in Westeros in a position to deal with the Vale clans on the basis of an existing friendly relationship, perhaps being in a position to deploy them as her own personal muscle in a similar way to Tyrion in King's Landing. And what's more, as a Stark, she is perhaps additionally well-placed to treat with the clans as a fellow First Men-identifier and follower of the Old Gods. With the Vale clans behind her, she would be much less reliant on Littlefinger for protection, and it gives her independent bargaining chips when it comes to other Vale lords. To get there requires a series of mental leaps: first she has to stop being Alayne and become Sansa Stark, then she has to identify herself as Sansa Lannister, and finally realise that her husband is the Halfman, not just T. Lannister of Casterly Rock. It's hard to imagine her making these unless prompted. But maybe the scene is being set for just such a prompt, as she leaves the Eyrie (impregnable to the clans) and the lords of the Vale assemble for events which may be more vulnerable to clan attack. If put on the spot, might she have the sudden epiphany necessary to play the cards at her disposal? Or will her somewhat straitjacketed way of thinking stop her from ever coming at the problem laterally enough to realise what she might have at her disposal? Even if nothing comes of the Sansa thing, what do we think is going to happen with the Vale clans? Are we going to see them again, or is that just an abandoned plot thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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