Biggest sore loser in the saga ?

[KingAerys_II]

28 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

Another advantage LF has over other schemers is that he doesn’t have to conclude anywhere in particular. It’s a LOT harder to plot and stay in the shadows and affect the changes you need when you have one specific goal in mind. Amongst other issues, if people can determine where you need to end up, they can anticipate your actions much more easily. This is why imo Varys >>>>>LF as a plotter, because he had kept so many moving pieces working towards a specific agenda without anyone being able to spot it or stop him. If he had the freedom of movement LF has, he could…well, do almost anything. Who in KL would ever be safe if Varys decided he wanted chaos? 

Illyrio in Pentos and Varys that makes the dirty job in King's Landing, the Blackfyre conspiracy is something of another level, the Meleys thing ended because of a legend, now there is a plot built by two geniuses, one of them fathered a Blackfyre who has the same age of the heir of the Iron Throne. 

Wyman Manderly, Varys, Illyrio, Baelish are extremely dangerous, as dangerous as dragons

[astarkchoice]

2 hours ago, James Arryn said:

Another advantage LF has over other schemers is that he doesn’t have to conclude anywhere in particular. It’s a LOT harder to plot and stay in the shadows and affect the changes you need when you have one specific goal in mind. Amongst other issues, if people can determine where you need to end up, they can anticipate your actions much more easily. This is why imo Varys >>>>>LF as a plotter, because he had kept so many moving pieces working towards a specific agenda without anyone being able to spot it or stop him. If he had the freedom of movement LF has, he could…well, do almost anything. Who in KL would ever be safe if Varys decided he wanted chaos? 

Yeah even setting the tower of the hands alight didnt stop him , him and his little birds are dug into the red keeps sercret undergroind honeycomb of tunnels and rooms like cockroaches!