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Can we just talk about Balon Greyjoy for a minute


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7 minutes ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

Well drowning babies at birth can't be good for their brain, and it looks like Balon's was even worse than usual.

He deliberately chose to attack the weakened North for almost no gain, just so he could call himself a “reaver” on a technicality. He didn’t even go himself. Then his plan was to beg Tywin to let him keep the Lands he stole. He was pathetic and stupid to even think that would work. Robert should’ve killed him. Though I guess that would’ve put Victarion in charge, and would’ve made it easier for Euron to come to power.

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Balon is one of the biggest grudge-holders in the kingdoms. He's a huge man baby who apparently drank too much salt water to ever think straight. He waited until Robert's reign was at its peak, then rebelled (although in his eyes, it wasn't rebellion because they never swore allegiance blah blah). After his defeat he just holds a giant grudge against everybody and is too proud to form alliances during the war of the five kings. It would be one thing if his reasons were that he wanted to lie low for the sake of his kingdom, but it was just his pride at work once again. For a man who toots his own horn about "living The Old Way", he sure contradicts it a lot. Robb is the only king to reach out to Balon for an alliance and Balon turned it down solely out of spite. Balon doesn't live by the Old Way, he lives by his grudges and uses the Old Way as a spice.

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8 minutes ago, astarkchoice said:

Another bitter stark thread,.dude we all love them but the red wedding happened

Hating balon and walder etc isnt gonna alter the books no matter how hard.you try on each re-read

It’s nothing to do with the Starks. He is just an idiotic character. It’d be different if he outright allied with the Lannisters

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7 minutes ago, Prince Rhaegar Targareyen said:

It’s nothing to do with the Starks. He is just an idiotic character. It’d be different if he outright allied with the Lannisters

He offered to once he knew his suprise was struck , tywin had other ideas as he knew there would be no protracted war for obvious reasons

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6 minutes ago, astarkchoice said:

He offered to once he knew his suprise was struck , tywin had other ideas as he knew there would be no protracted war for obvious reasons

Offered too late, and wanted far more that he can chew and that Tywin could and would be willing to to give to him.  

 

At least Roose Bolton and Walder Frey waited until Tywin promised to give them what they wanted before acting. 

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2 minutes ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

Offered too late, and wanted far more that he can chew and that Tywin could and would be willing to to give to him.  

 

At least Roose Bolton and Walder Frey waited until Tywin promised to give them what they wanted before acting. 

Nope lords tyrell and redwyne actualy push tywin to accept the terms. remember...unlike them though he knows there wont be a long war with robb. 

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5 minutes ago, astarkchoice said:

Nope lords tyrell and redwyne actualy push tywin to accept the terms. remember...unlike them though he knows there wont be a long war with robb. 

Lords Tyrell and Redwyne aren't a very strong argument to accept it, neither are known for their political or strategic accumen, and anyone with common sense and knowledge of the North knew that Balon can't hold it nor that they can't let Balon proclaim himself as an independent king without weakening Joffrey's cause and credibility.

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4 minutes ago, sifth said:

Did he do any fighting in either of his rebellions? Heck, did he even lead any of his felts into battle? 
 

Why did the Iron Born, follow this guy again?

To be fair the  2nd rebellion was cut short by his 'accident' 

 

 the combination of houses greyjoy and harlaw by marriage  id say are pretty much too strong for anyone else to shine

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1 minute ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

Because they're stupid and delusional, hence why they choose to follow Euron after Balon.

Yea, but for all his many faults, I can at least understand why the Iron Born follow Euron. He fights with his men on the front lines and has been shown to get results. Balon just sat around, while other people did the fighting for him, during two rebellions, that he started. He accused Theon of being soft, but what battles did  Balon help win? 

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1 minute ago, astarkchoice said:

To be fair the  2nd rebellion was cut short by his 'accident' 

 

 the combination of houses greyjoy and harlaw by marriage  id say are pretty much too strong for anyone else to shine

Yes or no will do. Did the man fight in either rebellion? You seem to be this guys biggest fan boy for some daft reason.

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The first time Balon came up with some idea, he got his father killed in the shield islands...

There isn't a single person in Westeros that says something nice about the guy... he is always called, crazy, mad, blind, fool, bad lord, bad king and so on... Even Joffrey has a better track record.

 

 

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