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Footballer Christian Atsu has been found dead under the rubble of his home almost two weeks after the Turkey earthquake, his agent has confirmed.

The Ghana international, 31, had spells with Premier League sides Everton, Chelsea and Newcastle.

Atsu had been missing since the 6 February quake that caused the collapse of his apartment in Antakya, Hatay.

"There are no words to describe our sadness," tweeted his Turkish top-flight club Hatayspor.

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3 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

He's been good for about 2 months in 8 years. 

Not really, no.

Rashford's only poor season was last season. In every other season, he did as he usually does being the streaky player that he is i.e. alternated between a hot streak and a drop-off.

Valuing Rashford at 120 million is laughable though. It's way too early to judge whether EtH has gotten consistency out of him or if this is just another one of his hot streaks.

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1 hour ago, Consigliere said:

Not really, no.

Rashford's only poor season was last season. In every other season, he did as he usually does being the streaky player that he is i.e. alternated between a hot streak and a drop-off.

Valuing Rashford at 120 million is laughable though. It's way too early to judge whether EtH has gotten consistency out of him or if this is just another one of his hot streaks.

OK. So he's been good for about 2 months every year for 8 years. He's 25. It's not like he's a young kid anymore. Inconsistency is inconsistency. 

When he's bad, he's shite. Who wants that? i wouldn't even pay 50 million for him with someone else's money. 

 

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21 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

OK. So he's been good for about 2 months every year for 8 years. He's 25. It's not like he's a young kid anymore. Inconsistency is inconsistency. 

When he's bad, he's shite. Who wants that? i wouldn't even pay 50 million for him with someone else's money. 

 

He's been good for longer than 2 months a year for 8 years. Your criticism is not only unfair but inaccurate as well. He's better than Alexander Isak who cost €70m.

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22 minutes ago, Consigliere said:

He's been good for longer than 2 months a year for 8 years. Your criticism is not only unfair but inaccurate as well. He's better than Alexander Isak who cost €70m.

It's absurdly early to be making that statement. He's been injured and/or settling in since he got here. 

Rashford averages less than a goal every 3 games, that's pretty piss poor. 

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11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

It's absurdly early to be making that statement. He's been injured and/or settling in since he got here. 

Rashford averages less than a goal every 3 games, that's pretty piss poor. 

Isak is 23. It's not like he's some young kid anymore. Rashford is a far better creator than Isak too which is borne out by the fact that he has more than triple the number of assists. 185 goals+assists in 352 games is better than 105 goals+assists in 224 games. In La Liga, Isak averaged less than a goal every three games (playing exclusively as a CF) and an assist in about every 20 games. Rashford is worth at least as much as what Isak went for.

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30 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

He's better than Joao Felix, who cost 126. QED.

With Felix, it was common opinion even at the time that Atleti overpaid. With Isak, I haven't seen any widespread opinion that Newcastle overpaid; on the contrary, it's mostly seen as a good piece of business. So in the current market, Rashford should be worth at least as much as €70m.

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We're seeing Nketiah's limitations today. His movement is excellent, always, but it's not just the finishing that lets him down. He's got a ropey first touch that often makes things harder for him than they need to be, and it means he's not bringing the midfield into play as smoothly as he might.

Which is all to say, he's a fine backup striker but Arteta really should have tried to avoid a position where he was leading the line on his own for any length of time.

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The son of the former prime minister, the 40-year-old’s biography proudly describes him as the chairman of Qatar Islamic Bank (QIB). The single largest shareholder of QIB is QIA, the state sovereign wealth. Al Thani’s father was previously head of QIA between 2007 and 2013. It’s at this point the discussion warrants a lot more depth than Al Thani’s plans for restoring the club to “former glories”.

Since “sportswashing” is really about influence and the appropriation of institutions, and never about as simplistic as public relations or image, it’s difficult not to describe this takeover attempt as the next step in its evolution.

We are several levels beyond hosting international tournaments at this point.

It makes it all the more incredible, and an utter indictment, that the Premier League did not take the chance to upgrade its Owners and Directors as regards state bodies and influence. They had ample opportunity and warning in the 16 months since the Newcastle United takeover, and Amnesty International UK are on record as saying they are still waiting for a follow-up from an October 2021 meeting. The fact that its two most famous institutions, United and Liverpool, went up for sale at the same time should have only made the alarms louder.

It could now leave the damning situation where three of the Premier League’s clubs are either owned or influenced by the three major states that most immediately drove the Gulf blockade. This supposedly great English competition would become the preserve of a political rivalry that takes in far graver themes, not to mention the highly-criticised human rights records of those states.

To only illustrate the kind of levels we are talking about, Friday evening brought intense discussion among human rights groups over whether this could re-ignite regional animosity.

“It is the fact it’s Manchester United, on multiple levels,” one prominent source who has worked in the area says. “They are buying Manchester City’s direct rivals in the city where Abu Dhabi has its powerbase and, given the regional tensions which were very, very severe, it is very possible this could fuel that animosity further, when it had been thought to have calmed.


“It would set a worrying precedent. Uefa should be worried by this.”

We’re not well past the point where this is any kind of “wake-up call” or “landmark” for the game. Such terms do not do justice to what has actually happened and the complete absence of leadersip or ability to handle issues like this.

You only have to look at news from earlier in the week as to how this path was allowed - and the possibility of this takeover was even allowed.

The Public Investment Fund takeover of Newcastle was ludicrously passed through because the consortium was supposedly able to offer “legally binding assurances” that there would be separation between the body and the Saudi Arabian state. That “fantasy” - as one human rights worker declared it at the time - was rendered exactly that when PIF actually argued in a US court that they should receive sovereign immunity from having to turn over information connected to LIV Golf’s legal battle with the PGA as they were part of the Saudi government.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

Which is all to say, he's a fine backup striker but Arteta really should have tried to avoid a position where he was leading the line on his own for any length of time.

Arteta did bring in Gabriel Jesus to lead the line but he's injured. I don't think Arsenal should be wasting money on another CF; instead they should give Folarin Balogun an opportunity next season. He's absolutely tearing it up in Ligue 1 this season.

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20 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

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PIF is part of the Saudi state. It's the literal sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia chaired by the nation's de facto ruler. The fact that the Premier League accepted some so-called 'legally binding' bullshit saying otherwise just shows how utterly corrupt the Premier League is. This is an organisation that sold out years ago.

I've seen some United fans hope that the Premier League and/or UEFA will object to Qatar taking over United. These fans are hopelessly naive imo. The Premier League and UEFA aren't looking for an excuse to scupper Qatar's potential takeover. On the contrary, they are looking for any excuse to approve it. Ironically, United fans' only hope to avoid a Qatar takeover would be for the Glazers to reject their bid.

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