Consigliere Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, Rorschach - 2 said: So you're saying keep VAR, since those using it are destroying it on purpose? Yes. You've got professional referees with years and years of experience looking at replays from multiple angles and yet the inexplicable decisions continue to pile up at an alarming rate. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to believe that these are just honest mistakes or mere incompetence. The Premier League is the worst of the top leagues too. VAR ain't perfect in the other top leagues but works a whole lot better than it does in the PL. The use of VAR in the World Cup and Champion's League is magnitudes better than the PL as well. Spockydog and Iskaral Pust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) Liverpool's season looking a lot like ours. Beat a great team then immediately lose the next game to a shit team. Not that Bournemouth are shit, just a team you'd expect Liverpool to beat. Edited March 11 by Darryk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach - 2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, Consigliere said: Yes. You've got professional referees with years and years of experience looking at replays from multiple angles and yet the inexplicable decisions continue to pile up at an alarming rate. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to believe that these are just honest mistakes or mere incompetence. The Premier League is the worst of the top leagues too. VAR ain't perfect in the other top leagues but works a whole lot better than it does in the PL. The use of VAR in the World Cup and Champion's League is magnitudes better than the PL as well. Could of course be true. Could be corruption. But given their nature, it's hard to accept a narrative of "honest mistakes" now, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On brighter VAR news, those calls can be game changers. And not by giving away silly handball penalties left and right. Tales from today's game. We conceded early (our defending has been suspect, but we somehow got away with it, well, playing out of the back and giving away the ball in the process creates defensive problems). By minute ten we were down 0-2 and I was thinking, I was in for a long afternoon. Instead VAR said it was offside (must have been very narrow, as I didn't suspect an offside call at all and neither did the on-field referees), so game continued at 0-1. And that was real boost for morale. 3 minutes later it was 1-1. Shortly before half-time the visitors got a clear red card, visiting players went on a crying tantrum spree, red cards get automatically checked by VAR, so that was kinda pointless. I am still not sure, what they were whining about there in the first place. Anyway, VAR confirmed the red card. Second half we were gifted the GWG, and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) Ah VAR, my favorite topic... it's shit, the people watching it are shit and they should just use it for offsides and move on. Everything else is way too subjective and inconsistent from game to game. If that's the case, just let the ref on the field be the only subjective judge. Edited March 11 by Mexal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 Kvaradona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Doing a Samir nasri tribute with that goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Dortmund dropping valuable points today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Glad Chelsea finally started scoring, even Felix continues to be just shy of that. But how was Fofana's elbowing of the ball not a penalty when VAR made that shite call in the Liverpool match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Seems like we need a thread just to trash refs and officiating regardless of the sport or league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mexal said: Ah VAR, my favorite topic... it's shit, the people watching it are shit and they should just use it for offsides and move on. Everything else is way too subjective and inconsistent from game to game. If that's the case, just let the ref on the field be the only subjective judge. The on field referee is already making an initial decision on whether a goal stands or whether or not a penalty is awarded etc. What they need to do is stop nitpicking and actually adhere to 'clear and obvious'. There's no need to be taking several minutes to review an incident. Quote they should just use it for offsides and move on. Semi-automated offside technology is vastly more accurate and only takes a few seconds to get a decision. That should be used from next season. Edited March 11 by Consigliere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 The rule should be that the VAR gets one look at a maximum of three angles of any given incident and if he's not sure, the decision stands. Because if it takes more than that it's not clear or obvious. BigFatCoward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 It's bananas that Liverpool have the worst midfield in the entire league, but here we are. Elliott and Bajcetic would struggle to get into Championship sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 From the bits I've seen, I think Bajcetic has enough about him that if the rest of the midfield had the physical intensity to back him up with his lack of physicality, he'd be fine. I don't really understand why a 6 foot+ kid who also plays at CB is so physically pushable and reluctant to engage, but hey. He looks calm and skilled on the ball, he might grow into a game-controlling player. He's being thrown in too early, though. Elliott I don't really see it. I mean, I know he's young too but I don't see that future for him, which I guess I'm not alone in. He's excused for being pushable because he actually is small, but he doesn't have the on-the-ball ability to make up for it. He just kind of mooches about. But yeah, your midfield would quite literally be greatly improved by at least one player from every single team in the relegation battle, and by multiple from most of them. Like just transplanting Rice, Soucek and Paqueta from West Ham's midfield into yours probably puts you at least in line with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It’s not just the MF kids though. Even when Henderson had a better game against United he still hoofed several aimless high balls. His anticipation to intercept passes was good but his composure and skill on the ball are quite poor. And Fabinho was also better against United by being more front-footed in his pressing before the opposing player could turn on the ball, but he was easily bypassed whenever the opponent had the ball facing forward with time to play; then his recovery pace is just missing. Similarly TAA had a better game against a United but still got caught asleep at the back post a few times. He just has so little awareness of what’s happening behind him, and seems to have no idea how to position himself or cover the angle even when he does know someone is behind him. There are too many players showing big fundamental shortcomings across many games. The balance of the team used to cover for these but they’re getting exposed more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teng Ai Hui Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I intend to follow MLS more closely this season as St. Louis has finally been awarded an expansion team. They had been trying to get one for about 15 years. Currently, St Louis City SC are the only team that has played 3 matches and won all 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Arsenal looking like the best team in the league again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 I don't normally support asking for cards but after that red for Casemiro we should demand they be sent off for every foul from now till the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Come on, man. He's got both feet off the ground, studs up, goes over the top and takes the guy mid-shin. Could easily have been a straight red. Edited March 12 by Spockydog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 (edited) He's got one foot off the ground, and the other only comes over the top because they hit the ball simultaneously and he bounces. That just happens sometimes when you slide-tackle. It's definitely a foul and a yellow, but it'd be a harsh red in normal circumstances, and it's laughable if we're meant to expect consistency with some of fouls that have been let go on VAR review in recent matches. I wouldn't be that annoyed about it if the ref had just sent him off immediately and VAR had said it's not an obvious enough call to rescind it. But since he didn't, I am. Edited March 12 by polishgenius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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