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5 hours ago, Heartofice said:

That sort of thing would happen at my school all the time. Fine if they want to make sure only female teachers do it, but I don’t have a problem with a school having a strict uniform policy.

It’s obviously better to have women do the inspections, but the bigger issue is the inspections themselves and how it negatively impacts teenage girls. Reading time!:

 

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3 hours ago, Heartofice said:

Ugh, try telling teenage boys not to look at girls. Living in a dreamworld mate. 

Right boys may get distracted by girls so force girls to cover up more and punish them when they don’t.

4 hours ago, Heartofice said:

A bit of discipline and attention to rules is something modern kids

Maybe we can try teaching people to show a bit of discipline in how act when attracted to someone.

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4 hours ago, Heartofice said:

We are already raising a generation of attention seeking pushovers, i

He cries while getting offended at the notion of schools not giving a sexist double standard.

4 hours ago, Heartofice said:

if they can't take something as simple as a uniform inspection then what the hell is going on.

 Wouldn’t the pushover response be what you’re demanding? For the female students to be silent and obedient.

4 hours ago, Heartofice said:

Quite. If its a choice between uniform inspections and everyone thinking they are in a Britney Spears video, I know which answer I'd choose.

“We either inspect all the minors skirts or they’re all going to be practically naked!”

I genuinely wonder how you can see the world like this.

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49 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

He cries while getting offended at the notion of schools not giving a sexist double standard.

Is it a double standard? I imagine if a male showed up in a skirt so short his balls were showing he’d probably be asked to change as well.

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12 minutes ago, DaveSumm said:

Is it a double standard? I imagine if a male showed up in a skirt so short his balls were showing he’d probably be asked to change as well.

A skirt showing too much leg = exposing your testicles. Is that what you are really suggesting here?

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24 minutes ago, Week said:

A skirt showing too much leg = exposing your testicles. Is that what you are really suggesting here?

You don’t understand a Minor girls legs are as sexually inappropriate to show  in public as a boy’s genitalia.

This is reasonable and not a creepy misogynistic comparison.

38 minutes ago, DaveSumm said:

Is it a double standard?

So long as girls the only ones expected to wear the uniforms and go through the inspections unequivocally yes.

Thank you for asking and now you know and learning is half the battle.

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26 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

Yes, make the girls responsible for how the boys react to them.

"Boys will be boys" amirite?

 

Surely the best way to teach personal responsibility and discipline in the next generation is to force girls to dress in ways as to avoid stirring lust in their male peers/ s

Anyway it is slightly creepy for grown men to think if not for the inspections female students would all turn up at school all showing barely clothed or showing their genitalia.  
 

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42 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

Yes, make the girls responsible for how the boys react to them.

"Boys will be boys" amirite?

 

There's also an intentional hetero/cis-normative thrust that continues to fuck kids up.

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46 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Anyway it is slightly creepy for grown men to think if not for the inspections female students would all turn up at school all showing barely clothed or showing their genitalia.  

Well, here in the USA they are demanding to inspect the genitals of female athletes to learn if they are really 'girls,' you know, and that somehow the wrong person doesn't invade the girls' lavatories or something.

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26 minutes ago, Zorral said:

Well, here in the USA they are demanding to inspect the genitals of female athletes to learn if they are really 'girls,' you know, and that somehow the wrong person doesn't invade the girls' lavatories or something.

Freedumb in action! 

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6 hours ago, Zorral said:

Well, here in the USA they are demanding to inspect the genitals of female athletes to learn if they are really 'girls,' you know, and that somehow the wrong person doesn't invade the girls' lavatories or something.

You need to provide a citation for something that outrageous. 

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4 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

You need to provide a citation for something that outrageous. 

In the olympics, female athletes used to be subject to mandatory gender testing, which could include physical examination. Princess Anne was exempt when she entered for show jumping. so i can well believe the Gileadists in America are bringing it back.
 

Also heard there are pushes to get girls to provide details of their menstrual cycle to monitor for possible abortions. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

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5 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

You need to provide a citation for something that outrageous. 

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/03/gop-passes-bill-aiming-to-root-out-suspected-transgender-female-athletes-with-genital-inspection/

And I think this kind of hammers home the point that all of this is nonsensical culture war bullshit because conservatives don't have anything of substance to offer, so distractions are their only card to play. Here's the conservatives' cry:

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“Across our country, female athletes are currently losing championships, scholarship opportunities, medals, education and training opportunities and more to discriminatory policies that allow biological males to compete in girls sports,” H.B. 61 bill sponsor Republican state Rep. Jena Powell, from Arcanum, said while proposing the amendment adding her bill into H.B. 151.

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There is only one transgender girl in the state that is currently participating in high school athletics, according to Equality Ohio and the Ohio High School Athletic Association (OSHAA).

 

It needs to be stated as often as possible, in both the US and UK, conservatism is completely full of shit and morally bankrupt beyond rehabilitation. 

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19 hours ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

and if you want equality then make the uniform Trousers for all.

Hell if you just want girls to show less skin trousers conceal a lot more than skirts and would require less policing.

 

12 hours ago, Week said:

There's also an intentional hetero/cis-normative thrust that continues to fuck kids up.

True, these rules are meant to reaffirm the difference between male and female students. It's not or at less proper for girls to wear pants because traditional gender roles.

12 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

It needs to be stated as often as possible, in both the US and UK, conservatives are completely full of shit and morally bankrupt beyond rehabilitation. 

Eh there can be a nuanced conversation on where can Amabs should label put on sports team if they're trans.

The reason why conservatives zero in this topic is because they can peel off support from people who aren't as terrible as them.

 true for most conservatives its just an intellectulization of their base disgust trans people. genuinely find women's sports either a joke, fap fodder, or outright disgusting(ex.female weight lifting).

Like the face of transphobic movement is matt walsh a man who rages at the existence female sports casters and women weigh lifting at the gym.

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