Heartofice Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 What Farron gets wrong there is it's not that people are intolerant of someone having a worldview, it's when that worldview affects other people that it becomes a problem. If you are a lunatic anti vaxxer, you are entitled to your beliefs, go for it. But if you start to push those beliefs onto other people and prevent them getting vaccinated then suddenly we need to sit up and pay attention. It's the same with religion, totally fine for people to have religious beliefs, but if you are going to be in a position of power where those beliefs become relevant to others then yes it should be scrutinised. Personally I'm also pretty untrusting of people who believe in religion, I think it says a lot about someones mental processes so that would make me want to rule them out of any political office. Which Tyler, Mychel_Redfort and BigFatCoward 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, Spockydog said: These people are bonkers. Farron sounds like he actually believes this shit is true. As in it actually happened. Listen man, sometimes when your lord and savior is a wizard you've got to teach yourself to fear and hate witches. ants and Spockydog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Setting aside all the glaring and obvious issues, I've got some bad news for Tim regarding the reliability of eye witness testimony, especially after any reasonable period of time has elapsed. ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Crixus, Sophelia, DaveSumm and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 (edited) Oh Oh goodie - another vote of no confidence is on the horizon. What's the record for most PMs without a GE? This lot must have smashed it! Edited February 22 by Which Tyler ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 17 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: It was interesting to read Mormont’s description of the strict practices of certain Scots Presbyterians, and boy oh boy, it sure explains the city of Toronto and the province of Ontario that I grew up in. People joked well into the 60s and maybe the 70s that Toronto rolled up the sidewalks on the weekend. Nothing was allowed to be open on a Sunday. But then again this whole province was run by Scots Presbyterians. Before Pierre Trudeau became PM in the late 60s he was Justice Minister and one of his key positions was “there is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation”. He introduced the laws that decriminalized homosexual acts. He couldn’t change the mind set of everyone, of course, but that was the first step that eventually led to Canada bringing home it’s constitution and writing the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Conservatives, of course, led a smear campaign saying, essentially, “look at this fucking homosexual monster trying to destroy Canada”. God bless conservatives everywhere, eh? eta: Trudeau was a practicing Catholic and always put the interests of the nation ahead of his faith, much to the anger and chagrin of various Catholic prelates in the country Trudeau pere seems like one of those few politicians who are actually worthy of admiration. Has anyone read his biography by English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: Oh Oh goodie - another vote of no confidence is on the horizon. What's the record for most PMs without a GE? This lot must have smashed it! There will surely have to be an election if they do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Spockydog said: There will surely have to be an election if they do this. We thought that last time. And the time before that. Derfel Cadarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, maarsen said: When the Puritans left England, they first went to the Netherlands because they had religious freedom there. In the NA colonies they were horrific to Catholics and anyone not Them, and not so nice to many who were Them, particularly any woman who stepped out line. When Cromwell became ruler of England, many of them returned to that England, which by all accounts was just a barrel of fun and laffs and so good for everybody, that the desperate people of England went and got themselves a king again. maarsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Which Tyler said: Oh Oh goodie - another vote of no confidence is on the horizon. What's the record for most PMs without a GE? This lot must have smashed it! They'll need at least one more to not be sharing the record, the 1935-1945 period also had three: Stanley Baldwin -> Neville Chamberlain -> Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Denvek said: They'll need at least one more to not be sharing the record, the 1935-1945 period also had three: Stanley Baldwin -> Neville Chamberlain -> Winston Churchill Now my question is—how many lettuces would Sunak beat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: Trudeau pere seems like one of those few politicians who are actually worthy of admiration. Has anyone read his biography by English? He is still reviled in parts of Canada. Especially amongst the conservative sorts. ants and Gaston de Foix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 59 minutes ago, maarsen said: He is still reviled in parts of Canada. Especially amongst the conservative sorts. Glowing endorsement of a human if you ask me. ants, Fragile Bird, Prince of the North and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, maarsen said: He is still reviled in parts of Canada. Especially amongst the conservative sorts. I sensed that, but it was less clear to me why. Are they in favor of criminalizing homosexuality and abortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 This article seems to be driving much of the Westminster chatter today: https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-has-so-far-kept-his-brexit-talks-trump-card-under-wraps-but-will-he-ever-get-to-play-it-12817026 ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Reptitious Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) On 2/21/2023 at 8:26 PM, Spockydog said: European boarders, what is your experience? Are your major supermarkets struggling to put fresh produce on the shelves? Nope, at least not as far as I've noticed. Edited February 22 by Ser Reptitious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 hours ago, Spockydog said: There will surely have to be an election if they do this. Why? You don't vote for a PM, you vote for a member with a party affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: I sensed that, but it was less clear to me why. Are they in favor of criminalizing homosexuality and abortion? He was very smart, very arrogant, and women were mad for him. He did date Barbra Streisand. He was all the things conservatives weren't. Gaston de Foix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 17 minutes ago, ants said: Why? You don't vote for a PM, you vote for a member with a party affiliation. As in Canada a new PM is expected to get a new mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Europeans mock UK shoppers with photos of supermarket shelves full of fresh fruit and veg Quote EU citizens are mocking UK shoppers by sharing pictures of supermarket shelves filled to the brim with fresh fruit and vegetables as food shortages hit Britain. Tesco has followed Aldi, Asda and Morrisons in introducing shopper restrictions on certain fresh produce as shops struggle to get supplies due to reported supply chain disruption. The UK's biggest supermarket brought in a limit of three items per customer on tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers as a precautionary measure. Meanwhile, Aldi has placed limits on peppers, cucumbers and tomatoes as retailers warned the shortages - although expected to be temporary - were likely to last for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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