astarkchoice Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Nevets said: You do realize that Westeros isn't real, I hope ? Trying to do counterfactuals in the real world is hard enough. But an imaginary place? Where the writer can do as he pleases, subject to plausibility and planned character development. Ugh! And some of the changes are hardly minor. Killing Catelyn leaves a big hole, and becomes entirely unpredictable immediately. If Arya has Needle, why? Live practice sounds dangerous, but I suppose it might work. What does Syrio have? If Syrio somehow gets Needle, Arya would need a way to get it back. For her story to work, she has to be on her own. I'm guessing Syrio might have his own weapon. As long as Arya escapes with Needle, the rest doesn't matter. Syrio has essentially fulfilled his usefulness. He was a mentor and savior. Not much necessarily changes. For the record, I do not believe he is a FM or even survived. We won't see him again. Tyrion - Tyrion cannot die. He's too important to the story. With his death you do a complete rewrite. If Bronn loses (not certain by any means) that would set up a huge conflict between Catelyn and Lysa, with Brynden joining Cat. Could get ugly. Tyrion would not meet and arm the clansmen. He also might not join Tywin. I do think he would end up at KL eventually. In all honesty, the logical thing is for Bronn to win and the story to go on the same. Dany - The whole thing with Drogo is essentially a scam, so I doubt it is essential to their plans. I'm sure they would have a backup. As for Viserys and Dany, probably more wandering. Catelyn dying I won't even try. Its not real? But i saw it on the tv ! The nice man on the phone said i was donating my money to support lord manderlys northern resistance!! Plus the idea was lil changes ( ie assasin being a fraction faster, drogo just not feeling that attractes to dany, lysas crazy random mind picking another champ for x reason) leading to bigger alterations and how people think theyd affect our fav lil fantasy verse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: It is even more odd that during the ever so slow invasion of Andals which took hundreds perhaps over a thousand year to be completed, this wasn't seen as a liberation of the english First Man necks from the yoke of their Norman Andal opressors Hang on a minute. I thought the First Men were the Britons, the Andals were the Anglo-Saxons and the Targaryens were the Normans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Hang on a minute. I thought the First Men were the Britons, the Andals were the Anglo-Saxons and the Targaryens were the Normans? Yes but there is no such thing as a "An Angle, Saxon and Jute yoke on a Briton neck". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Nevets said: I'm guessing Syrio might have his own weapon. As long as Arya escapes with Needle, the rest doesn't matter. Syrio has essentially fulfilled his usefulness. He was a mentor and savior. Not much necessarily changes. For the record, I do not believe he is a FM or even survived. We won't see him again. So no Duncan Idaho Syrio Forel gholas ending up the saviour of the known universe in several tens of thousands of years later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, astarkchoice said: Its not real? But i saw it on the tv ! The nice man on the phone said i was donating my money to support lord manderlys northern resistance!! It's just conspiracy theory. a great northern one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, Corvo the Crow said: It's just conspiracy theory. a great northern one. Thank the gods...ok emptyong bnk account now...il get it all back.lord manderly is good for the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: Yes but there is no such thing as a "An Angle, Saxon and Jute yoke on a Briton neck". I dunno, plenty of people would disagree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said: So no Duncan Idaho Syrio Forel gholas ending up the saviour of the known universe in several tens of thousands of years later? No, and thank the Old Gods and New for that! (he does mirror Duncan Idaho somewhat tho, never made that connection) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, LongRider said: No, and thank the Old Gods and New for that! (he does mirror Duncan Idaho somewhat tho, never made that connection) Somewhat? Even his homeworldland is the same All he lacks is his baliset (or was it Gurney who played it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth the raven, Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 11:19 AM, astarkchoice said: Ok some of the forums fav game seems to be what ifs...small changes that affect story in big ways , how do you think these indiclviidual would go? -arya brings needle to her last practice...her dancing master picks it up when ser trant arrives Syrio would still lose. He will take one or two down with him but the outcome is the same. On 2/25/2023 at 11:19 AM, astarkchoice said: -lysa arryn hears a differrent voice in her head ...picks bronze royce ir lyn corbray (with lady forlorn) for the duel with bronn The bad little man will try to fly. Unsuccessfully, On 2/25/2023 at 11:19 AM, astarkchoice said: -assasin moves a little.faster and cats neck not her hands are opened by the v.steel.knife The terrible War of the five kings will be avoided. On 2/25/2023 at 11:19 AM, astarkchoice said: -drogo rejects dany at pentos...varys and ilyrios next move? Daenerys will come into her own and her dragons will be born. May not be three because three kings are needed to bring back three dragons. Daenerys is Azor Ahai and the prophecies will be fulfilled. On 2/25/2023 at 11:19 AM, astarkchoice said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth the raven, Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Naathi Butterflies I am suspicious of these creatures. I suspect they carry a deadly disease and the gentle people of Naath are somehow immune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Quoth the raven, said: Naathi Butterflies I am suspicious of these creatures. I suspect they carry a deadly disease and the gentle people of Naath are somehow immune. The people of naath with rise up as an imperial bioweapon superpower Ships landing in quarth ,mereen ,bravos, Kl ,oldtiwn and volantis with hidden compartments filled with the lil fluttery death dealers! Naath will rise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Quoth the raven, said: Syrio would still lose. He will take one or two down with him but the outcome is the same. The bad little man will try to fly. Unsuccessfully, The terrible War of the five kings will be avoided. Daenerys will come into her own and her dragons will be born. May not be three because three kings are needed to bring back three dragons. Daenerys is Azor Ahai and the prophecies will be fulfilled. Dunno feel if syrio could fuck up some guards with a heavy wooden training sword then the likes of trant should be killable...eye slit meets needle at high speed! Yeah itd be next to impossible to keep the vale out of the war then Varys and LF still want wars , stannis knows cerseis secret and poor old ned will work it out so id suspect a war would still be brewed up somehow. Dunno man is shes not near a magi or anything i cant see it happening,without a khalassar smokescreen for faegon theyd have to use the 2 some other way , possible marriage alliances etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Many-Faced Votary Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Quoth the raven, said: Naathi Butterflies I am suspicious of these creatures. I suspect they carry a deadly disease and the gentle people of Naath are somehow immune. This is actually confirmed in The World of Ice &Fire. Naathi butterflies are theorized to carry and transmit the disease of butterfly fever, which has killed everyone from Ghiscari and Valyrian invaders to Rhonyish guests to slavers, but to which native Naathi are immune. (Slavers attack at night and only stay for a few hours, to minimize the risk of the disease.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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