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20 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

The bad people shouldn’t be the only ones with guns.

Bad people being fascists like Schaffer.

And Jesus said, "Make sure you always shoot your enemies in the head twice, especially if their sin was to ask for water, because they probably deserved it. If you can loot the corpse, awesome!" 

 

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It must be so nice to be right-wing sometimes. When people on your side lie, steal, beat people up, rape them, or kill them, you can always ignore it and nothing happens. But the moment somemone who can possibly be labeled as "leftist" commits heinous acts, you can declare a crusade against the left and everything it defends.

 

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3 hours ago, Rippounet said:

When people on your side lie, steal, beat people up, rape them, or kill them, you can always ignore it and nothing happens.

Or blame it on the other side as a false flag—whilst maintaining the person/people who did the false flag are martyrs/heroes.

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9 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

And Jesus said, "Make sure you always shoot your enemies in the head twice, especially if their sin was to ask for water, because they probably deserved it. If you can loot the corpse, awesome!" 

 

 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.  For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.  And a person's enemies will be those of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

Very biblical.

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27 minutes ago, Darzin said:

 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.  And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Matthew 10:34-36

Very biblical.

In Genesis 19:7-8, Lot says, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have two daughters who have not known man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.”

Talk about a book that needs banning...

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Das Waco-Kid
Trump kicks off his campaign in Texas with a 1930s-style bang

Jonathan M. Katz
13 hr ago

"It’s got it all: raging, sexually charged paranoia; anti-Marxist and antisemitic cant; Biblical rhetoric (“cast out” / “throw off”); and the epistrophe of an evangelical sermon. Goebbels could scarcely have written it better."

https://theracket.news/p/das-waco-kid?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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.... I know Nazi analogies are considered passé, maybe even counterproductive, when it comes to American politics. I’ve talked for years now about the fascist roots and fascist themes of Trump’s rhetoric, being careful to situate it in America’s long domestic history of fascism. I have also tried to differentiate between the generally fascist, proto-fascist, and even semi-fascist ideology/actions exhibited by Trump and his movement on one hand, and those of the historical National Socialist German Workers’ Party on the other — because those things are not the same.

But now those fine distinctions are starting to be irrelevant. Over the weekend, Donald Trump officially kicked off his 2024 presidential campaign at the airport in Waco, Texas — an extremely charged location whose significance, if not obvious, I’ll get to in a second. As Trump stood next to the podium, an announcer instructed the crowd:

"Please rise and place your hand over your heart for the number one song on iTunes, Amazon and the Billboard charts: “Justice for All,” featuring President Donald J. Trump and the J6 choir!" [video of the song and performance in article -- it's not a twit or uTube so cannot be embedded here]

The backing track begins with ominous synth overtones — a discordant step down from the atonal melody, and thus meant to plant in the listener’s mind a sense of dystopian injustice. But as the images of the Capitol putsch begin, the backing tones diverge and become more melodic, in a major key, turning the images of the most violently anti-democratic action in recent American history into a hopeful sonic tableau. The video’s editors turn the putschists into victims, bravely standing their ground amid an unjust onslaught. When the “choir” sings, “And the rockets’ red glare / the bombs bursting in air,” we see a montage of menacing Capitol police firing tear gas and smoke bombs into the crowd. At “through the night …,” we see footage of the shooting of Ashli Babbit as she tried to burst into the House Speaker’s Gallery. It then cuts to a pro-Trump protest as the “choir” sings (and men’s voices shout) “… OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE.”

The video ends with interspersed shots of fighter jets, Bible-reading prisoners in orange jumpsuits, and Trump entering (or, symbolically, re-entering) the White House, as the “choir” chants “USA! USA! USA!” At the airing in Waco, rally-goers chanted along, right on cue.1

This spectacle was taken by most of the political press as being part of Trump’s hamfisted effort to rally his base amid his mounting legal peril, stemming both from his instigation of the January 6 riot, attempts to steal the election in Georgia, and other assorted corruption and malfeasance. As Michael C. Bender and Shane Goldmacher wrote in the New York Times: “The song … is part of a broader attempt by Mr. Trump and his allies to reframe the riot and the effort to overturn the election as patriotic.”

That’s true in part, but it’s also shortsighted. “Justice for All” is, simply put, a 21st Century Horst-Wessel-Lied. The song and the video, with its memorialization of Ashli Babbit and portrayal of the putschists as victims, are a message as clear as the one Hitler gave in 1933: that those who fight and die for Trump will also not only be martyrs but the seeds of a new American “greatness.” It was a call to civil war.

The violence inherent in Trump’s message was further underscored by the choice of the rally’s location, and the text of his ensuing speech. Waco is of course best known as the site of the federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound, exactly thirty years ago next month, in which 82 cult members — including 26 children — and four ATF agents died. (Many of the cult deaths were later ruled to be suicides; several of the children are believed to have been killed by cult members, possibly as mercy killings while the fire raged).

As the scholar Kathleen Belew noted yesterday: “Waco is significant because it is used as the alibi for domestic terrorism: because the federal government killed Branch Davidians at Waco, the story goes, violence against the federal government (and collateral damage against civilians) can be justified.” ....

 

 

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And predictably the reaction from most of the right is a.) banning all medical transitioning of people regardless of age(even that was looked on as extreme just a day prior. b.) Banning trans people from owning firearms.

And a few liberals still scoffing at the idea the Republican Party is acting genocidal to trans people.

 

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Barely politics related, but I found this fascinating. I guess the connection is, "hey, with sufficient funding it looks like the IRS really is able to do its job again"

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There is an exciting mystery afoot in U.S. tax data, where the Treasury issues a daily report of financial transactions and on February 28, 2023, the feds reported a deposit of $7 billion. The money was filed under the category “estate and gift taxes” and is completely an outlier, the highest collection of that tax since 2005. This is weird, because it would seem to imply that one of the richest people in the world died, passed on an estate that necessitated $7 billion in estate taxes, and we never heard about it. This would imply an estate worth $17.5 billion at the absolute minimum, but more likely ballpark $35 billion, one of the richest people in the world, which means that either Forbes missed one, the feds got some extra after enforcement, or we have a dead billionaire mystery afoot. 

https://www.numlock.com/p/numlock-news-march-28-2023-crocs

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Josh Hawley called ‘fraud and coward’ over response to Nashville shooting
Far-right Missouri senator accused of selectively invoking hate crime laws after characterizing shooting as attack on Christians

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/29/josh-hawley-nashville-shooting-hate-crime

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A Democratic opponent of Josh Hawley labelled the Republican “a fraud and a coward” after the far-right Missouri senator demanded the killing of three nine-year-old children and three adults at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee, be investigated as a federal hate crime.

Less than two years ago, Hawley was the only senator to vote against a bill to crack down on hate crimes against Asian Americans during the Covid pandemic.

That bill, he said, would “turn the federal government into the speech police [and] give government sweeping authority to decide what counts as offensive speech and then monitor it”.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Week said:

Christians, arm yourselves to hit all targets including churches.

/S

Because the event is scheduled for April 1, I wanted to make sure this was not an April Fool's joke. And it isn't. This is a real church, and part of the United Church of Christ denomination, which next to the eastern Quakers is the Protestant denomination with the longest history of pro-LGBTQ stances.  

https://www.clevescene.com/news/reverend-of-chesterland-church-says-drag-event-will-go-on-as-planned-after-building-was-vandalized-last-weekend-41674686

https://www.chesterlanducc.org/

 

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7 minutes ago, Ormond said:

Because the event is scheduled for April 1, I wanted to make sure this was not an April Fool's joke. And it isn't. This is a real church, and part of the United Church of Christ denomination, which next to the eastern Quakers is the Protestant denomination with the longest history of pro-LGBTQ stances.  

https://www.clevescene.com/news/reverend-of-chesterland-church-says-drag-event-will-go-on-as-planned-after-building-was-vandalized-last-weekend-41674686

https://www.chesterlanducc.org/

 

Of course, I grew up in/adjacent to a congregational church. It's not for me (organized religion) but I'm grateful for the progressive values that the church and congregation espouse. Right-wingers reduce both (all?) sides to monoliths to support a worldview that does not actually exist.

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Not quite sure what to make of this. It seems *almost* like there is a GOP faction that *might* be willing to cut some sort of legitimate deal on immigration, but that seems...absurd.

 

'It’s dead': Texas GOP Rep. insists he'll do 'everything' to block 'unchristian' immigration bill (msn.com)

 

The legislation, proposed by Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) in January, would "give the secretary of Homeland Security the ability to shut down border crossings and detain asylum-seekers while their cases are processed in court."

During a recent interview with CBS, Gonzles said, "That bill in particular, it's dead. There's no way it's going to get on the floor. I'm gonna do everything in my power to prevent that because in my district, people are dying. And we need real solutions, not political rhetoric."

 

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18 hours ago, ThinkerX said:

Not quite sure what to make of this. It seems *almost* like there is a GOP faction that *might* be willing to cut some sort of legitimate deal on immigration, but that seems...absurd.

Not so absurd when you remember as little as 15 years ago immigration didn't break down on partisan lines. One Bernie Sanders went on Lou Dobbs to talk about immigration driving wages down and Bush wanted immigration reform. That said... I remain unconvinced that any Republican congress member will be willing to stand up to the right wing mob. Whatever their personal opinions. 

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NY Times reports it too!

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Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York: Live Updates

Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.

 

Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York: Live Updates - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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1 minute ago, LongRider said:

Yeah baby!

 

And here all the People Who Know Everything have told us the last two days there wasn't a chance of anything like this happening 

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166890507/manhattan-jury-investigating-trump-break-april

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics/trump-grand-jury-april-break/index.html

Etc. Etc. Etc.

because the office is taking a break until late in April! Yet again the frackin' media stars confidently proclaim what is not the case.

Partner just foned to discuss dinner; asked, "Is there anything going on I should know about?"  I said, "Nope."  Partner said, "Good."  Then I clicked here and see this!

 

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