Petyr Baelish, the man with a plan

[H Wadsworth Longfellow]

Littlefinger was humiliated at Riverun.  He was a victim of Hoster's elevated sense of his family's social standing and just perhaps further ambitions.  Petyr and Barbrey have something in common.  They could have been great together.  Barbrey wants revenge.  Petyr wants the same thing and a little more. 

Petyr has achieved wealth but so far has invested none of it in renovating his family's castle.  Wealth is just a means to an end.  To what end?  The destruction of the great houses.  He used Hoster's daughters to bring ruin to the Tullys.  He pushed along the conflict between Lannister and Stark.  The Starks lost.  The Tullys lost Riverun.  His revenge was successful.  He is using Sansa for the next phase of his plan.  To incite war between the Vale and the Lannisters. 

Petyr Baelish is a self-made man.  A man like him rise because of talent rather than their family status.  I could see him working towards a meritocracy.  At least as much meritocracy as he can have in Westeros. 

[King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd]

10 minutes ago, H Wadsworth Longfellow said:

Littlefinger was humiliated at Riverun.  He was a victim of Hoster's elevated sense of his family's social standing and just perhaps further ambitions.  Petyr and Barbrey have something in common.  They could have been great together.  Barbrey wants revenge.  Petyr wants the same thing and a little more. 

Petyr has achieved wealth but so far has invested none of it in renovating his family's castle.  Wealth is just a means to an end.  To what end?  The destruction of the great houses.  He used Hoster's daughters to bring ruin to the Tullys.  He pushed along the conflict between Lannister and Stark.  The Starks lost.  The Tullys lost Riverun.  His revenge was successful.  He is using Sansa for the next phase of his plan.  To incite war between the Vale and the Lannisters. 

Petyr Baelish is a self-made man.  A man like him rise because of talent rather than their family status.  I could see him working towards a meritocracy.  At least as much meritocracy as he can have in Westeros. 

He wasn’t humiliated by Hoster at Riverrun. He lost a duel, a duel he started to win the hand of Cat who was already engaged. Dude is an Westerosi Incel. The rest of what you said is pretty spot on, save for the fact the Starks are still around and their return is inevitable, as are the Tully’s more than likely. Littlefinger is destined to lose, and while he is whiny incel, his ability to scheme is unquestionably GOATED.

[kissdbyfire]

Yes, we definitely have another great man in Littlefinger! He is smart, powerful, honourable because his cause is just! He only wants to right the wrongs he’s suffered at the hands of the evil Tullys and the dishonourable Starks! And he will achieve his goals, because “meritocracy”, I guess! After all, everything he has he’s achieved through valid and just means, through his many merits. It would be different if he had achieved his riches and power through deceit, lies, murder, betrayal, scheming, and causing the world to burn around him. But not him, not our dear Petyr the Great, he would never do anything like that; only vile and despicable houses like the Tullys and Starks would do such evil things. /s

 

[Craving Peaches]

Littlefinger isn't working towards a meritocracy. The only person he wants to be able to rise is himself. He's not some 'man of the people'.

[King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd]

I didn’t even read the meritocracy part. That’s just a blatant lie. Littlefinger isn’t some working class hero. He’s a petty bitch whos mad because the girl he liked didn’t like him back.

[Craving Peaches]

9 minutes ago, King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd said:

I didn’t even read the meritocracy part. That’s just a blatant lie. Littlefinger isn’t some working class hero. He’s a petty bitch whos mad because the girl he liked didn’t like him back.

I think he's mad because the whole true love prevails thing didn't work at all. His anger was at Brandon not Catelyn.

[Corvo the Crow]

Gotta punch those cards.

[Corvo the Crow]

15 minutes ago, King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd said:

I didn’t even read the meritocracy part. That’s just a blatant lie. Littlefinger isn’t some working class hero. He’s a petty bitch whos mad because the girl he liked didn’t like him back.

But what about all those working girls? Like Jeyne Poole for example?

[Curled Finger]

3 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said:

But what about all those working girls?

Should I paste the sex scene in here, too?  

[Craving Peaches]

Listen, I was warming up to the idea of LF as a paramour in the other thread, but that doesn't mean you can just make up whatever you want. LF isn't working for 'the proletariat' which is a good thing too, because commies are a huge turn off. Better dead than red amiright? Honestly.

[Curled Finger]

31 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

Yes, we definitely have another great man in Littlefinger! He is smart, powerful, honourable because his cause is just! He only wants to right the wrongs he’s suffered at the hands of the evil Tullys and the dishonourable Starks! And he will achieve his goals, because “meritocracy”, I guess! After all, everything he has he’s achieved through valid and just means, through his many merits. It would be different if he had achieved his riches and power through deceit, lies, murder, betrayal, scheming, and causing the world to burn around him. But not him, not our dear Petyr the Great, he would never do anything like that; only vile and despicable houses like the Tullys and Starks would do such evil things. /s

 

You missed gorgeous grey green eyes.  He's got that going for him, too. 

[King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd]

8 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said:

I think he's mad because the whole true love prevails thing didn't work at all. His anger was at Brandon not Catelyn.

It wasn’t true love, it was one sided and he couldn’t let it go.

[Craving Peaches]

Just now, King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd said:

It wasn’t true love, it was one sided and he couldn’t let it go.

True that it wasn't true love, but it probably was from young LFs naïve perspective. But he should have grown out of it when he got older.

[Many-Faced Votary]

Look, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. I know you can't actually think that Ramsay is a decent man, or that Walder had every right to commit mass murder through breaking one of the few millennia-sacred laws throughout all of Westeros, or stuff like that.

But I hope you realize that Littlefinger is a spiteful, fundamentally selfish, power-hungry, vindicative, callous, evil, perverted, and abusive schemer who cares only about himself no matter the expense to Westeros and everyone in it, least of all the commoners; because I know that this is easier to overlook then the blatant monstrousness of people like Tywin and Ramsay.

[kissdbyfire]

12 minutes ago, Many-Faced Votary said:

Look, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here

Why? I mean, when someone shows you who they are, believe them,

[Many-Faced Votary]

1 minute ago, kissdbyfire said:

Why? I mean, when someone shows you who they are, believe them,

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt in the sense that I'm assuming they don't actually believe their defenses of some of the vilest people in the series, offered solely due to their dislike of the Starks and anyone associated with them.

[Alester Florent]

Littlefinger is happy to use his talents to climb the ladder, but he's also entirely happy to kick the ladder away once he's done so. He's not a class hero, he's just out for himself.

I can however see him spinning the "meritocracy" crap when someone comes to him now he's a LP asking for loan. "I pulled myself up by my bootstraps, you can do the same, buddy; no handouts for you". In that way, LF perhaps resembles a modern billionaire more than anything else.

I have to admit I don't hate him as much as I should, because he's witty and his cleverness is at times legitimately impressive. But he is nevertheless a terrible person and I think to assume he's looking out for anyone but himself is a mistake. Maybe, maybe, he cares enough for Sansa to help her out of genuine affection, but it's also entirely possible that he just sees in her something he can use for his own benefit.

Or that he's just straightforwardly grooming her.

[Corvo the Crow]

"The Cylons Baelish Were was Created by Man Brandon. They  He Rebelled. They  He Evolved. They He Looks and Feels Human. Some are  He is programmed to think they are he is Human. There are many copies (Old Gods, I hope not!). And they have he has a Plan."

[King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd]

Another bad take from the Stark hate crowd. 

[kissdbyfire]

Just now, King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd said:

Another bad take from the Stark hate crowd. 

Bad take is their middle name.