ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 It's almost certainly a mistake and they meant to write Sauron. Not that the show becomes any less stupid through Saruman's absence. Quote Nomvete also spoke about playing the first female dwarf and the first dwarf of color on screen in the Tolkien universe, explaining that she “didn’t feel too much pressure” from audiences or the creative team. [...] Lotro already did that. Corvinus85, Ser Scot A Ellison and Cas Stark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 3:15 PM, Farerb said: ‘Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power’ Team Talk Crafting The Look & Sound Of The Second Age, Tease Season 2 https://deadline.com/2023/04/lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-interview-sophia-nomvete-contenders-tv-1235326401/ Reveal hidden contents Saruman will be introduced in season 2. On 4/15/2023 at 4:04 PM, Ser Scot A Ellison said: :facepalm: Hide contents Will they introduce Saruman as a villian? Anyone want to be Saurman will be a lieutenant to Sauron? These people have absolutely no respect for the existing story of the 2nd age. Mithril flakes to heal Elven children of their mysterious ailment. Galadriel is really in a “will she won’t she” with a maiar… this isn’t being well assembled. Where do they mention Saruman? Not that I would be surprised. I called it when the Hinds casting was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Some grifter has sued Amazon and the Tolkien Estate for $250 million, claiming that they largely ripped off his original vanity press novel which also appears to be a LotR fanfic SeanF, Derfel Cadarn, baxus and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongue Stuck to Wall Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ran said: Some grifter has sued Amazon and the Tolkien Estate for $250 million, claiming that they largely ripped off his original vanity press novel which also appears to be a LotR fanfic I had what is in retrospect a poorly-conceived urge to explore this further and tracked down the prologue and first chapter of The Fellowship of the King for free (thankfully). The author, Demetrious Polychron, sells himself unsurprisingly on Stanek-esque levels of grandiosity and delivers about the same. Affected whimsical writing desperately attempting to copy the tone of The Hobbit/the first chapters of The Fellowship of the Ring - check. Horrendous prose - check. Punctuation errors - check. Misspellings (Erabor for Erebor, Michael Delving) - check. Sam is referred to in the prologue as HMS Gamgee, HMS standing for Honourable Mayor of the Shire, but this isn't explained until later in the first chapter leaving the reader to wonder if the Royal Navy might not be getting into the action too. Re: the substance of the lawsuit, the story is set 22 years after the Lord of the Rings. So far, the only overlap with RoP seems to be the use of the name Elanor. In Polychron's case it actually is Elanor Gamgee who teams up with her future husband Fastred, and then Elladan, Elrohir, Aragorn's son Eldarion, and one of Merry's kids. Evidently this new fellowship must thwart the return of Morgoth somehow. On the topic of the Tolkien Estate, Alatar the Blue Wizard shows up in Chapter One with a message for Sam from King Elessar. I believe any and all references in a published work in any medium cannot make reference to the content of Unfinished Tales, so perhaps Mr. Polychron has himself bitten off more than he can chew, let alone taking on Amazon. Edited April 19, 2023 by Tongue Stuck to Wall Fixed the last sentence. Corvinus85, SpaceChampion, Ran and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigoTheCarpathian Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Tongue Stuck to Wall said: Sam is referred to in the prologue as HMS Gamgee, HMS standing for Honourable Mayor of the Shire, but this isn't explained until later in the first chapter leaving the reader to wonder if the Royal Navy might not be getting into the action too. HMS Gamgee is the jolliest potato freighter in the Navy, AND a great nickname for your genitals (if you are not looking to ever have sex, ever). Tongue Stuck to Wall, Prince of the North and Ran 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ran said: Some grifter has sued Amazon and the Tolkien Estate for $250 million, claiming that they largely ripped off his original vanity press novel which also appears to be a LotR fanfic My sides: Quote Thirteen Rings for Enchanted beings that swim, run and fly Eleven for Dwarf and Elven lords wherever they may roam Five for Mortal Warriors destined to die One for the Bright Lord on his Golden Throne In the East of Eregion, where the Misty Mountains lie One King will gather them all, one King will unite them One King will lead them against the evil that will smite them In the Land of Mordor, they will triumph... or die Apparently this is a list of everything he claims the show ripped off. Edited April 19, 2023 by Ser Drewy Ran, SpaceChampion, AncalagonTheBlack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 The confidence of people like this never ceases to amaze me. How do they look at something like this and think: "Yeah, this is good enough to go to print!" Also, who publishes this? Or is it self-published? Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Ser Drewy said: My sides: Apparently this is a list of everything he claims the show ripped off. I didn't realize we could do this. There are some video game companies that are about to feel my ire!!! IlyaP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, baxus said: Also, who publishes this? Or is it self-published? Quote Using our copyrighted process, we guide our writers in creating compelling characters, original narratives and unique mythologies. We craft beautifully constructed manuscripts and use innovative promotion, sales and marketing strategies to bewitch, bejewel and bedazzle six second attention spans and get people reading and talking about our books. Our goal: find authors whose visionary creativity deserves to reach the largest audience possible and provide innovative ways for them to get there. For our readers, you get to experience our stories on whichever form of media or platform you prefer. But we don’t stop there. Get ready for multi-author, multi-series, multiversal story arcs like you’ve never seen before. PREPARE TO BE SURPRISED AND DELIGHTED Entertainment companies have created Shared Universes which spill from TV shows and movies into books. But no one has created a Shared Universe with multiple authors telling different stories that begin in different books and then characters jump from one writer’s epic storyline into another’s, meeting the other writer’s characters and playing decisive roles in each completely different universe. Fractal Books is creating the world’s first Shared Universe that begins with multiple authors in a literary series of interrelated stories and books, culminating in a singularly rich multi-world, multiversal Omniverse you’ve never seen before. This sounds like some sort of grift, and I'm thinking the fellow is the originator of the "publisher". So it's self-published, or maybe a vanity press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) I am not curious enough to torture myself reading this, but I'm sure some of you are: Here's his friend "interviewing" him, but strangely it's just one comment and then cuts off. Did his friend have more to say and he editing it out because it was unflattering? I want to track this friend down and interview him! When I found that channel yesterday it had only one subscriber. Now it has 4.... I wonder if 3 lawyers just joined. Edited April 19, 2023 by SpaceChampion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Tsk. Everyone knows that The Fellowship of the King is actually a UK based Christian organisation. This Polychron person has stolen their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) My sides x2: Quote All that is precious is not cherished Yet love that is true will not fail Not all the forgotten have perished The one who believe will prevail. Those tempered by fire do not burn Yet not all broken hearts can be mended Not all who were lost will return But these Unfinished Tales will be ended If not courage nor hope are relinquished Great deeds will not go unrenowned The Fallen will finally be vanquished The Rings that were lost shall be found Quote Elanor Gamgee Gardner, daughter of Samwise and Rosie, was excited at the prospect of her upcoming two-and-twentieth party. For tween girls in the Shire, nothing short of a wedding was as exciting as the twenty-first anniversary of their birth. … All this undoubtedly on account of the Great Year of 1436. That was when the High King Elessar of the United Kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor, Queen Arwen, the princesses of Celendrian and her sisters met HMS Samwise, his wife the inimitable Rosie, their seven children; the Thain Peregrin Took, ruler of Tookland, his wife Diamond and their son Faramir; the Master Meriadoc Brandybuck ruler of Buckland, his wife Estella, sons Theoden and Boromir, and daughters Priscilla and Esmerelda; and many other hobbits of note. Dear Eru above: Quote Dedicated to the life and work of John Ruel Ronald Tolkien and his son Christopher Tolkien. If not for you, this would not be. "Don't adventures ever have an end? I suppose not. Someone else always has to carry on the story." - J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring Edited April 19, 2023 by Ser Drewy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Yah know, given the quality of some of the story points in RoP, maybe there is a grain of truth here. One of the showrunners could have scoured the internet for ideas and came across his book. Btw, he even makes a mistake in his list of showing what was plagiarized by calling episode 6 episode 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 So the second and third books in his trilogy are called A Couple of Castles and The Return of the Ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 28 minutes ago, Myrddin said: So the second and third books in his trilogy are called A Couple of Castles and The Return of the Ring? The second one is apparently called The Two Trees. Corvinus85 and Myrddin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 So does the first book include a massive flashback to Numenor? I don't understand why Numenor and Galadriel feature so prominently if the story is a sequel to LOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 Polychron has now added himself as an author to Fellowship of the Ring on Amazon... IlyaP, Ser Scot A Ellison and SpaceChampion 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Sounds like he needs a psychiatric evaluation. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 How can one just add themselves as an author to a book they didn't write on Amazon? 6 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: Sounds like he needs a psychiatric evaluation. On that note, the one editorial review on Amazon for his fanfic book is this: Quote "A truly amazing and brilliant piece of work. Such a huge undertaking and achievement!"- Dr. Lydia Ruark, B.A. Religious Studies / Ph.D. Psychology So he may be going to the wrong therapist. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 And apparently his book was published on September 22, 2022. Product details ASIN : B0BS3CVFF7 Publisher : Fractal Books; Large type / Large print edition (September 22, 2022) Language : English Hardcover : 383 pages ISBN-13 : 979-8986410401 Half of RoP's episodes were already out by then. Case closed. Now the Tolkien Estate can go after him for his plagiarizing and copyright infringement. IlyaP and Ser Scot A Ellison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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