Lord Varys Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) On 3/24/2023 at 6:37 PM, Aldarion said: Problem with poison is that Belwas ate the whole damned plate of these things and didn't die. So was the aim truly to kill her? I'm not so sure. Of course the aim was to kill her. We have no idea what poison was used or how it works, but Belwas only survived because of his size and because he ate all the locusts so fast that he retched most or all of them up shortly after he ate them. And then he was tended by medical professionals who also may have identified the poison administering some antidote. It might very well be the case that a single locust contained a lethal dose for Dany assuming the poison was completely absorbed by her body. On 3/24/2023 at 6:58 PM, BlackLightning said: Myrcella could be a queen regnant. As could Daenerys. Even Sansa and Arya stand a greater chance of becoming queens regnant of the 7K than Cersei. Myrcella, Shireen, and Dany can - Sansa and Arya not really, either. They could try to claim another Northern or Trident or even a Vale crown, but not the Iron Throne. Cersei could, perhaps, put forth a weak claim as Robert's widow ... but there is literally no chance that anyone would support that. Not after her walk and her quarrel with the Tyrells, the Faith, and soon Dorne. On 3/24/2023 at 6:58 PM, BlackLightning said: Yes. But keep in mind that Aegon has the advantage of being male, of having an existing Westerosi support system (i.e., Dorne), and of playing a defensive position. No matter what type of government or political system you have, it is very difficult to remove an incumbent ruler. Especially if you have to engage in amphibious warfare to do so. Look at the Russo-Ukranian War. Russia has the more superior fighting force and Ukraine has been bombed and stormed to pieces, but Zelensky is still out there leading the charge and continuing to defy his Russian enemies. Plus, if you look at it a certain way, Aegon's inexperience works in his favor. Daenerys is a known entity who has made her fair share of mistakes and enemies. These enemies, like all people, talk. So, while the mistakes that Dany has made are or will be common knowledge that can and will be used against her, you can't say that about Aegon. Aegon simply hasn't made that many mistakes because he hasn't done anything. Yet. Aegon should have little trouble pushing aside Cersei's brats and Stannis ... but Dany is going to come to Westeros like Aegon the Conqueror did. With real dragons and - unlike Aegon - with a large army to make up for the size of her dragons. I'm sure Aegon won't be in a weak position when she shows up - but that doesn't mean people will stay in his camp for long, considering the fact that he might be fake and never acquire a dragon. On 3/24/2023 at 7:06 PM, illrede said: Now that rings true. "This agreement isn't safe/reliable if this VIP is alive, end that problem as a precondition", has precedent. The worst arguments people have been put forth about the locusts is that people wanted to abort Daario's child. There are actual people out there who think Hizdahr and the Green Grace care about Dany's children. They want the bitch gone. Her and her dragons. Yes, they also want to go with a King Hizdahr, want the new Meereen to be a monarchy rather than restore the oligarchical rule of the Great Masters. But they don't want Dany to be a part of that. Edited March 25 by Lord Varys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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