Craving Peaches Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: I'm not sure it is a very good way to analyze (high) fantasy stuff. Stuff like Robert E. Howard's stories you can interpret with his racism in mind since his world is supposed to be earth's past and also deliberately reflects racial and cultural hierarchies he very much believed in. Similarly, you can use such an interpretative matrix if it is really evident or easy to demonstrate that the work in question just moved a real world racial/cultural hierarchy take into a fantasy setting. The white savior is more a real problem in the sense that black or indigenous people are often enough still portrayed as people needing saving from some white person (a white woman, say, in the case of adoption black kids from Africa). And historically the white savior narrative goes definitely hand in hand with the more blatant racist 'they are all savages without culture' narrative. The stories about the noble savage welcoming the white person's wisdom and help is the nicer, fairy-tale version/justification for colonialism, etc. But we don't really have that kind of thing in ASoIaF. In fact, while, say, wildling culture is kind of ridiculous the author makes it clear while there is certainly a strong exotic allure to their lifestyle (best illustrated, I think, in the sidebar in TWoIaF about that maester writing about them who 'went native' after he finished his book) it is clear that the whole wife-stealing and raiding practices do suck. The books never present a given culture or society as being completely or even predominantly good. The trope used to be a good identifier but now it has been watered down to include any sort of help to people with a different skin colour. Previously it seems it was restricted to 'mission to civilise' and pro-imperialist type depictions of 'white saviours' but I think it has been extended to cover more, at least in some people's view, so now what Daenerys is doing falls under it. Aldarion and SeanF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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