Lord Varys Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 4 hours ago, sweetsunray said: Tyrosh, Lys and Myr offer her peace agreement where they promise to free their slaves and not buy them anymore, and offer their pirate fleets as means of transport. Once Volantis is taken down, and Dany has all the Dothraki, the Three Sisters have no market to buy slaves anymore nor training cities. On top of that, most and largest sellsword companies are either already at Westeros, being hired by Stannis or joined Dany. Tyrosh, Lys and Myr relied on sellsword companies for their wars and defense. They do have the pirates to pick up people to enslave, but no market to sell them anymore, and no training cities either. So, imo the Three Sisters will realize that opposing Dany or warring her openly is a losing move. They're smarter than that, and agree to non-slavery (in the same way that Pentos did) and provide assistance to get her asap to Westeros so she can leave them the hell alone. That does not seem particularly likely. The notion that Stannis can outbid a or a coalition of multiple Free Cities or motivate a significant number of sellsword companies to join him at the fucking Wall in winter is ... not exactly convincing. Gold is fine, but it doesn't warm you in winter. Not to mention that Braavos is far away from the Disputed Land where most of the sellsword companies actually operate. So far we only met companies who were - for one reason or another - not in the Disputed Lands. The Three Daughters also seem not exactly dependent on slave imports from Slaver's Bay - the Lyseni, for instance, are well-known breeders of slaves ... and they also enslave debtors and the like. We also know from FaB that the Three Daughters do not rely on slaves for their standing military and navy - they do have their own military which they bolster with sellswords and sellsails. Thus they do have the means to crush any slave uprisings that might happen, and Tyrosh and Lys are also safe from Dany's landbased Dothraki. If they were to combine their forces they could marshal sufficient strength at sea to cripple of crush Dany's armada - at least the part of her armada that is going to sail west from Meereen via Volantis. They could even be more powerful if they were to make common cause against Daenerys with Euron Greyjoy - which is something they might considering the Ironborn are now permanent guests in their waters and might even take over most of the Stepstones in preparation for their eventual attack on KL. The one way Daenerys Targaryen can yet be stopped or harmed in a meaningful manner (aside from a successful assassination attempt) is at sea. Ships can sink, and if they do sink all the people onboard are likely to die. Nobody will be able to stop her or deal her a devastating blow on land. Her advantage in numbers should carry the day there in effectively every scenario one can imagine. In that sense, the Three Daughters are indeed likely to combine their forces and attack Daenerys before she can attack Lys or Tyrosh herself - that (parts of) her armada are going to land there is kind of obvious. Even if they would not want to free the slaves there, they are very likely to take up provisions there ... and in context they are likely going to use the slavery there as a pretext suck them dry of food and other provisions in light of the fact that Westeros is a continent that has descended into chaos so it would be pretty hard for Dany's forces to live off the land if they were forced to fight campaigns there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gizzard of Oz Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/18/2023 at 8:48 AM, Tyrosh Lannister said: Assuming she returns to Mereen from Vaes Dothrak with her Dothraki army and wants to head over to Westeros she needs ships. The ironborn are hostile so she can't use their ships. They would be burned. Same with the Volantene fleet. How will she carry her army over to Westeros ? Braavos will bow and serve Dany. She is the heroine in this story and the Braavosi are anti-slavery. They will be grateful for finally putting the nails on the coffin of the Masters. Lending her their ships is something the Sealord will gladly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Gizzard of Oz said: Braavos will bow and serve Dany. She is the heroine in this story and the Braavosi are anti-slavery. They will be grateful for finally putting the nails on the coffin of the Masters. Lending her their ships is something the Sealord will gladly do. Doubt it. Braavos won’t be her enemy but I doubt they’d lend her ships just for interrupting the slave trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Ironborn hostile, Dany won't give in Dany will be making great use of Euron's ships and mast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ Bloodraven Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:29 PM, The Gizzard of Oz said: Braavos will bow and serve Dany. She is the heroine in this story and the Braavosi are anti-slavery. They will be grateful for finally putting the nails on the coffin of the Masters. Lending her their ships is something the Sealord will gladly do. She's the heroine of Westeros' story, the Braavosi don't care about Westerosi politics, the Iron Bank just wants it's money. I don't understand why she wouldn't use Victarion's ships, other than her need to actually stabilize Meereen and the other slave cities. Once she can unite with Aegon and fulfill Varys' plan, the need for ships will become less important, she just has to get back to Meereen to meet Victarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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