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22 minutes ago, Darryk said:

Supergirl was intriguing for the short time she was onscreen, but other than that, not much to go on.

The only reason I might check it out once it's free. Kara is a pretty neat character. 

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58 minutes ago, Darryk said:

I had low expectations for Flash but it still disappointed. Way more Ezra Miller than a stomach can handle. Who the hell thought having two of them would be a good idea?

Michael Keaton was fun and Supergirl was intriguing for the short time she was onscreen, but other than that, not much to go on.

Also a podcaster said there was an ass shot of Gal Gadot but I didn't see any. Not happy.

Don't get the reason for the cameo at the end. Were they just trying to be funny?

At one point it was going to be Keaton-Bat and Supergirl at thr end, then some of the cirrent JL, but guessing Black Adam flopping and the decison to reboot scrapped that. The actual endong was originally started as a joke but Gunn approved it. Hope we get the alternate endongs on blue-ray

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1 hour ago, Darryk said:

Don't get the reason for the cameo at the end. Were they just trying to be funny?

Apparently that's the third cameo sequence they shot for the ending and was done after Gunn took the reins of the DCU. The other cameos were setting up the continuation of a now canceled universe. It'd be fun to see them all released at some point like DVD deleted scenes. 

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1 hour ago, Darryk said:

I had low expectations for Flash but it still disappointed. Way more Ezra Miller than a stomach can handle. Who the hell thought having two of them would be a good idea?

Michael Keaton was fun and Supergirl was intriguing for the short time she was onscreen, but other than that, not much to go on.

Also a podcaster said there was an ass shot of Gal Gadot but I didn't see any. Not happy.

Don't get the reason for the cameo at the end. Were they just trying to be funny?

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An attempt at logical consistency?  Clooney’s Batman expressly acknowledged the existence of Superman.  Keaton’s Batman had no idea who Superman or Clark were.  

 

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Watched this over the weekend, haven't seen any of the WB shows so my only real knowledge of the Flash was 80's cartoons when he was in the Justice League show.

I thought the main actor was pretty good, I now see that he was a POS real life but this is based on screen not off. I liked how the two played off each other. I liked most of the actors in the movie and for the most part I liked the plot.  My problem is that Spiderman No Way Home came out before this and was a far superior movie.  It makes this feel like a generic knock off of that movie. I liked the cameos but as it went on I was like yeah this has been too long of a sequence and that's when the Spiderman comparison came to mind and my enjoyment of the movie went down hill.

All in all I enjoyed the movie and am actually considering watching the WB show now.

 

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6 hours ago, IFR said:

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You state this as if it somehow has anything to do with the active harm her writing, tweets & activism has cause trans men & women - and if you think it hasn't, then you haven't been paying attention. In addition, 'denizens online are enraged' is stated in a way as if she's been a bystander or somehow she's being criticized unjustly, which is not the case.

There have been plenty of articles about Miller as well, if you've bothered to find & read them; using a DC thread on this forum as a barometer for criticism for Miller, whose profile is much smaller than Rowling's,  is also an odd choice, especially extending that to 'social hypocrisy' - this is just nonsense, really - especially when we've had people express reservations about seeing the film.

And I'd argue part of the reason this movie is bombing at the box office, there are several other reasons though ( quality, DC pushing the film back, flash as a character being available on TV for years)

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59 minutes ago, Raja said:

There have been plenty of articles about Miller as well, if you've bothered to find & read them; using a DC thread on this forum as a barometer for criticism for Miller, whose profile is much smaller than Rowling's,  is also an odd choice, especially extending that to 'social hypocrisy' - this is just nonsense, really.

You perhaps interpreted this quote:

 

"But it is fascinating to see the more limited outrage here, to the point the studio thinks that a redemption story of a psychopath is a good idea (as opposed to simply refusing to discuss Rowlings, or summarily firing Depp)."

to mean, when I stated 'here,' that I meant this forum. That's not the case - I was speaking of here as in this situation (regarding Miller, as opposed to JKR and Depp). I was referring to the reaction of social media as a whole (mostly the usual suspects of reddit, twitter, and the news - which has become social media in and of itself).

1 hour ago, Raja said:

You state this as if it somehow has anything to do with the active harm her writing, tweets & activism has cause trans men & women - and if you think it hasn't, then you haven't been paying attention.

You are welcome to DM me evidence of the damage she has done. I suspect it will be loose correlation, but I'm open to be convinced otherwise. We can then possibly discuss the merits of crime and punishment, and the algorithm of what measure of good deeds versus bad deeds leads to a correspondingly vigorous demand for a boycott of an artist's works.

My position is the damage Miller has done is readily measurable in criminal terms and more easily quantifiable. And there are no good deeds to offset this. Perhaps you can convince me that this is the case for JKR.

1 hour ago, Raja said:

And I'd argue part of the reason this movie is bombing at the box office, there are several other reasons though ( quality, DC pushing the film back, flash as a character being available on TV for years)

I'd like to believe the entire reason this movie is bombing is because the DCEU has historically proven itself to be utterly incapable of churning out anything but the most soul-crushingly asinine movies, and the general audience has finally come to recognize this. But that may be a naive perspective on my part.

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I don't really see why we're whatabouting Ezra Miller with JK Rowling in the first place, but I feel like the fact that she declared a far-right militia to be members of house Griffindor the other day is a clue that she's on the wrong side of history. 

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1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Holy crap the Kraven trailer just dropped. I totally forgot that was coming out.

And it looked so terrible, you logically felt it belonged in the DC discussion thread. DC movies: where pretty much it all sucks these days.

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28 minutes ago, IFR said:

 I was referring to the reaction of social media as a whole (mostly the usual suspects of reddit, twitter, and the news - which has become social media in and of itself).

I've read multiple articles this week from fairly big entertainment websites highlighting all the harm Miller has caused. Have you made an effort to find them? In addition, there is a vast different in profiles between Rowling & Miller, which contributes to 'coverage' on social media.

28 minutes ago, IFR said:

You are welcome to DM me evidence of the damage she has done. I suspect it will be loose correlation

I'm good, thanks. If you've read the things she has said and come away with the conclusions you have posted thus far, I'm really not here to put effort into what you've described above.

I think trying to compare the harm one person has done with another person is gross - as is the whataboutism that you've put forth here - and to be fair to everyone in this thread, it's probably not the right place for it.

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2 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

And it looked so terrible, you logically felt it belonged in the DC discussion thread. DC movies: where pretty much it all sucks these days.

Hey maybe the aquaman movie will be good

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7 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

And it looked so terrible, you logically felt it belonged in the DC discussion thread. DC movies: where pretty much it all sucks these days.

I just watched the trailer, fuck me, there are some dud lines in there! ‘He uses his connection with animals..’ and ‘why do you hunt?’

Its just baffling really. What was the expected end game for a movie like this? Is the idea that you create a franchise, so you put in an origin story and turn him into John Wick with Lions?

Honestly Kraven the Hunter is pretty goofy really, hard to take seriously even in that really good Spider-Man story, but there was an opportunity to actually turn up the camp here and make it interesting, as it is, this look Morphious bad. Oh is it a Sinister 6 set up movie?? Just thought about it. Fuck that.

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18 minutes ago, Raja said:

I've read multiple articles this week from fairly big entertainment websites highlighting all the harm Miller has caused. Have you made an effort to find them?

Sure.

18 minutes ago, Raja said:

I'm good, thanks. If you've read the things she has said and come away with the conclusions you have posted thus far, I'm really not here to put effort into what you've described above.

Suit yourself.

19 minutes ago, Raja said:

and to be fair to everyone in this thread, it's probably not the right place for it.

I agree.

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16 minutes ago, Raja said:

Yeah..the trailer looks...not the best

 

So, same dog different dump.

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D'oh. Is it odd that I've watched aquaman 1 and do not remember those scenes lol

It's james wan directing though, so I got *some* hope

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