IheartIheartTesla Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 8:45 AM, Werthead said: That said, I do think the praise given to S3 of Picard (and S1 of Strange New Worlds for that matter) is a bit overblown. A lot of the traditional nu-Trek problems are very much present and correct. It's the best season of Picard, by far, and it has several genuinely solid character arcs, but it's coming from a low bar. This is probably true, but there are some metrics by which Picard S3 has done extremely well. Two of these include a nearly 98% critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and breaking into the Top 10 Nielsen's rating for original streaming series. The latter I think is a bit more impressive since it goes by millions of minutes watched and has 25 episodes listed, so it must include S1 and S2 as well. However, to keep this in perspective, the Mandalorian has 3X the number of minutes with 19 episodes. For me, I'm mainly watching for the nostalgia and am willing to overlook the plot point issues, but was hoping they could have come up with a better Bifg Bad than they did. Still, maybe the last episode will surprise us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Star Trek: Section 31 is greenlight, but as an event movie for Paramount+ rather than a full series. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/paramount-plus-star-trek-section-31-film-michelle-yeoh-1235586743/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: Star Trek: Section 31 is greenlight, but as an event movie for Paramount+ rather than a full series. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/paramount-plus-star-trek-section-31-film-michelle-yeoh-1235586743/ Much like Star Wars at this point, I don’t think anyone is getting too excited about a Trek film until it’s filmed. I remain deeply ambivalent about ‘genocidal cannibal gets employed by Starfleet for some reason’, however good Yeoh may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, DaveSumm said: Much like Star Wars at this point, I don’t think anyone is getting too excited about a Trek film until it’s filmed. I remain deeply ambivalent about ‘genocidal cannibal gets employed by Starfleet for some reason’, however good Yeoh may be. She's not a cannibal, is she? I remember when season one came out we were saying there needs to be a word for what she is. That was one of the great things about Discovery season one: at one point there were two or three people on the bridge who had eaten alternate versions of other people on the bridge. Deadlines? What Deadlines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 It's only cannibalism of you eat your own species. RumHam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Well whatever we’re calling it, I think it should rule you out of a career in Starfleet. RumHam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, RumHam said: She's not a cannibal, is she? I remember when season one came out we were saying there needs to be a word for what she is. That was one of the great things about Discovery season one: at one point there were two or three people on the bridge who had eaten alternate versions of other people on the bridge. She was eating another clearly sentient species… I think she (and a reluctant Michael) ate the Terran version of Saru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: She was eating another clearly sentient species… I think she (and a reluctant Michael) ate the Terran version of Saru. right, and a couple of the Klingon characters ate her counterpart from the main universe. That doesn't make you a cannibal anymore than if I ate a dolphin though does it? Granted it doesn't come up a lot for obvious reasons, but my understand if cannibalism is you're eating one of your own species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, RumHam said: right, and a couple of the Klingon characters ate her counterpart from the main universe. That doesn't make you a cannibal anymore than if I ate a dolphin though does it? Granted it doesn't come up a lot for obvious reasons, but my understand if cannibalism is you're eating one of your own species. That’s a mighty fine line you are drawing in a story about a multi-species interplanetary political federation… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: That’s a mighty fine line you are drawing in a story about a multi-species interplanetary political federation… To be clear I'm not saying "It's fine for star trek characters to eat other species" I'm objecting to the label, and again suggesting we need a word for it. We have words for stupider stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RumHam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DaveSumm said: Well whatever we’re calling it, I think it should rule you out of a career in Starfleet. According to DS9 they're not part of Starfleet. Though that may have just been Bashir's opinion/wishful thinking because he thought they were too evil. Admiral Ross's cooperation with them suggests otherwise. Anyway I think she'll fit right in with those genocidal ends justify the means people. I'm just curious what the show will be about. The bit about "confronting the sins of her past" could be a hint about a mission to the mirror universe or just that there will be character stuff where she feels bad. The first thing that comes to my mind is time travel, because they know it's workable and it seems like they wouldn't hesitate to use it to try to create an advantage. 4 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: sapiocarnivore I like it! Edit: speaking of cannibalism, I'm five or six episodes into Prodigy and it took me a few of them to realize where I knew Gwyn's voice from. Great show so far, I'm glad you guys kept talking about it because I initially bounced off the first half of the pilot. Edited April 18, 2023 by RumHam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, AncalagonTheBlack said: Thank God they’ve abandoned the “Disco” Klingon redesign. Ran and RumHam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Damn, it took this trailer for me to realize Spock's Vulcan traits represent a form of autism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 23 hours ago, RumHam said: According to DS9 they're not part of Starfleet. Though that may have just been Bashir's opinion/wishful thinking because he thought they were too evil. Admiral Ross's cooperation with them suggests otherwise. I believe that's technically correct, they're part of the Federation's intelligence apparatus whereas Starfleet's the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Thank God they’ve abandoned the “Disco” Klingon redesign. Same, seeing the Klingons look their proper way made me smile. My favorite alien race in all of Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Would Picard be a good show to watch if I haven't seen much of TNG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Mowgli said: Would Picard be a good show to watch if I haven't seen much of TNG? It's not even a good show to watch if you have. SpaceChampion, The hairy bear and DaveSumm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Just now, RumHam said: It's not even a good show to watch if you have. I've heard a lot of good things about this season by people I trust! I'm okay with uneven shows, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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