Spockydog Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I, too, liked the opening titles. Had no idea they were AI-generated, until my brother pointed it out. At which point, I felt dirty for liking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I also think that was an improvement over the first episode. All Jackson’s and Mendolson’s scenes were excellent. I’m invested enough to keep watching… I almost didn’t after the very generic first episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) Does this show feel overly conservative to anyone else? We actually get a scene where torture works and our villains are refugees, who start the season by killing over 2 thousand people. Maybe I'm just overthinking, but it's starting to remind me of some of the stuff that went down in 24. Edited July 1 by sifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 35 minutes ago, sifth said: Does this show feel overly conservative to anyone else? We actually get a scene where torture works and our villains are refugees, who start the season by killing over 2 thousand people. Maybe I'm just overthinking, but it's starting to remind me of some of the stuff that went down in 24. Given this is a Disney+ show i highly doubt it, given the ideological bent of their output. Have to wait till the season resolves itself before working it out, but looking at the amount of awkward interactions mentioning race so far in the show I’m willing to guess this will all be some clumsy allegory that will make me roll my eyes. Edited July 1 by Heartofice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 7/1/2023 at 11:46 AM, sifth said: Does this show feel overly conservative to anyone else? We actually get a scene where torture works and our villains are refugees, who start the season by killing over 2 thousand people. Maybe I'm just overthinking, but it's starting to remind me of some of the stuff that went down in 24. so far, it does feel somewhat like a retread of The Falcon And The Winter Soldier's plot, which had similar issues. Group of people with a marginalised identity that could only exist in a superhero universe, so are handily metaphorical. They have legitimate grievances that the audience can sympathise with but fall under the spell of a driven leader and embark on a campaign of terrorism that is somewhat clumsily handled at times. Lead character has real life marginalised identity that can draw out parallels but winds up having to fight the terrorists because the ends don't justify the means (unless your name is in the title of course). It's aiming for complexity but just comes out as muddled because in the end, Disney (like most big media firms) are willing to play with the idea that people can be oppressed by the system. But in the end they default to this being down to bad people within the system rather than a bad system, and the idea that what the marginalised really need is to find the good people within the system and get them on side. JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Weird tones in the latest episode of Secret Invasion. We get a Fury-Talos comedic duo at times and then a serious, dark ending. Spoiler Is there something special about that gun that Fury's wife retrieved from the safety deposit box? Because why do you need to keep a gun at the bank in America? Edited July 5 by Corvinus85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Spoiler I think she's in England and the bank is in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: Hide contents Is there something special about that gun that Fury's wife retrieved from the safety deposit box? Because why do you need to keep a gun at the bank in America? Spoiler It's some sort of spy craft though, right? She gets a message, goes to the safety deposit box, and her message is a gun along with a follow up call to meet for further instructions...it's clunky and feels like bad spy craft, but it isn't unusual for television trying to be dramatic. Doesn't bother me overly much. This episode was fine. Not bad, not good. It felt like episode three of a six episode series that needed to move things along much faster. I expect we haven't seen the last of G'iah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Honestly, the episode was fine, but kind of dull. It felt like treading water, rather than actually telling us a compelling story. It doesn't help that the writers helpfully make sure the viewers always know who the Skrulls are. Sure, there could yet be a reveal on one of the characters we believe to be human, but there's no tension in any of these episodes because we're always kept up to date with which disguises the Skrulls are using. Also, Spoiler did Fury just shoot dead several British security guards who were just doing their actual job? Edited July 5 by mormont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Spoiler Yeah, that was definitively Don Cheadle's voice at the end. Corvinus85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mormont said: Also, Hide contents did Fury just shoot dead several British security guards who were just doing their actual job? At the commodore's house? Spoiler They all turned into Skrulls as they died. So it goes with your post about the show always telling us who the Skrulls are. But how did Fury know this before he started shooting is the question . What happened to the stun guns they used to use in Agents of SHIELD? Edited July 5 by Corvinus85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 4 hours ago, Winterfell is Burning said: Hide contents Yeah, that was definitively Don Cheadle's voice at the end. Oh? Do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 10 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: At the commodore's house? Reveal hidden contents They all turned into Skrulls as they died. So it goes with your post about the show always telling us who the Skrulls are. But how did Fury know this before he started shooting is the question . What happened to the stun guns they used to use in Agents of SHIELD? I missed that! Although as they say, that just raises further questions. Anyway, apart from the troubled romance between Talos and Fury, the series so far feels quite dull. It's a spy thriller without any thrills. Great acting, don't get me wrong, but no tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) The episode used a lot of spy thriller cliches, like character running into the dark, only to have lights shined on him/her. Said character then being shot, but his/her shooting not checking to confirm the kill. There are probably others as well, but I was honestly doing work, while viewing the show. Truth be told I found it rather boring and I usually love Samuel L Jackson; the fact that they made a fun and charming guy like him boring, is an accomplishment in and of itself. Edited July 7 by sifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I kinda went easy on the first two, hoping it was building to something. But I have to admit defeat here, was that the dullest near-WW3 there’s ever been? I can’t quite put my finger on it, but it’s like the cast couldn’t be fucked with this one and everyone seemed to be begrudgingly going through the motions. Don’t really care for this Talos-Fury relationship that we only learned about two weeks ago, and therefore don’t really care about the ins and outs of who’s to blame for what. I thought the same thing about shooting the guards, and didn’t notice they were Skrulls (which is fine apparently…?). They were called Icers in Agents of SHIELD, actually quite a clever way of saying “look, they look like guns but we’re A Teaming this, nobody actually dies”. They could easily have used something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Also, was that a £10 note that he put down to cover a full English and a coke in a central London eatery? Unlikely. And he started with the TOMATO for fucks sake, in case anyone in the place had any doubt he was a Skrull. Corvinus85, Spockydog, karaddin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I don't think the point of the terrible WWIII plot was WWIII. That was the red herring. The real point of it was: Spoiler likely drawing G'iah out and proving her to be a mole for her father. Something that probably would have benefitted from a show of 10 or 13 episodes, not 6, forcing things to go too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 It’s just not… gripping. Well acted… and it’s weird to say… but only well acted. Gravik is so mustache twirlly… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieStone Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Ok, I'm dumb I guess. Were they going to use a sub to launch a nuke to take down a single airplane? That seems like...overkill. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, HokieStone said: Ok, I'm dumb I guess. Were they going to use a sub to launch a nuke to take down a single airplane? That seems like...overkill. Subs can also have regular cruise missiles. So probably something like a Tomahawk. That being said, the whole missile launch procedure sure looked like what we see in other movies for nuclear launches. I've no idea if the same procedure is applicable to all missile launches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts