GZ Bloodraven Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 9 hours ago, SeanF said: That’s pretty good, although I doubt I’d class Tyrion among the heroes. Tyrion's not a hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 35 minutes ago, GZ Bloodraven said: Tyrion's not a hero? The author has described him as “the villain.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ Bloodraven Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 22 hours ago, SeanF said: The author has described him as “the villain.” Is that the 1999 quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 ChatGPT is just a database, adjusted to the capability of holding s written conversation with you. It's telling you what it's programmed to say, it is not capable to have a rational (or irrational, for what it's worth) understanding of what it's being questioned, it's a system that's designed to be capable of answering the questions it's told to do so. The not-so PC versions are much easier to be led into controversial topics tho, which is fun. But I won't listen to a computer more than I would to it's creator, the first thinking entity behind the layers. As such, Tyrion is villainous at the very least, and the Starks fall into survival situations on a regular basis, with no heroicness attached to what they do, just survival instincts. (Sometimes not even that) But they're not stripped of their hero status, not even Tyrion (if he ever had one). While some characters do very questionable things, I think it's almost always pretty clearly outlined wether they're kept around for a positive or negative impact on the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 6:31 AM, kissdbyfire said: Maybe we should just let chatGPT answer the insane and dumb arguments that are constantly being made by a certain faction of readers. Only after it finishes Winds of Winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 hours ago, GZ Bloodraven said: Is that the 1999 quote? Yes. Now one can say Tyrion is a “hero”, in that he is a, perhaps the, main protagonist. In that sense Harry Flashman or Richard III are heroes. But their conduct is not at all heroic. If the novels’ ending is in any way similar to the show’s, I expect he will compass the ruin of both Jon and Dany. But, he’ll be Iago, not the show’s St. Tyrion. I imagine that sexual jealousy would be his big motivator (hinted at, but never really developed, in the show). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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