Varysblackfyre321 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 https://twitter.com/halomancer1/status/1666596261255053314?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, karaddin said: I guess if you want a technical answer about Reddit, the big selling features would probably be around it's scalability and I have to assume something with it's database management. No other forum style site I'm aware of is even close to handling the number of subforums and users that Reddit has. That's going to be entirely backend technology that we don't even have to think about as an end user though, so not surprising we don't have the details Yeah we use reddit in our product too. It's even more baffling how they can have such a quality backend system devised and fail so much at the front end. Maybe the move to raise the API costs is their way of getting rid off the front end and concentrate on selling the backend products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, kiko said: Yeah we use reddit in our product too. It's even more baffling how they can have such a quality backend system devised and fail so much at the front end. Maybe the move to raise the API costs is their way of getting rid off the front end and concentrate on selling the backend products Haha yeah, the old contrast between UX design and the underlying infrastructure. Very different skill sets and Reddit clearly had much more in house expertise on the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread Edited June 8, 2023 by Varysblackfyre321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 StackExchange is also having problems: there are moderation strikes happening because the site owners, as opposed to the majority of the site users, want to allow posts created through generative AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) he’s ideologically at least a Nazi-sympathizer To those who mocked the worry of musk turning Twitter into a Nazi hellscape has this caused any reflection? Edited June 10, 2023 by Varysblackfyre321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: he’s ideologically at least a Nazi-sympathizer One would assume this would be the case of a South African Boer Apartheid born millionaire yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 8:34 PM, dog-days said: StackExchange is also having problems: there are moderation strikes happening because the site owners, as opposed to the majority of the site users, want to allow posts created through generative AI. Polluting the likes of StackExchange with AI answers is a nightmare. If I had one source to train good models for a code AI, it would be StackExchange, with its moderated quality content. Also a mod strike of StackExchange is for the programming community what the writers strike is for Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, kiko said: Polluting the likes of StackExchange with AI answers is a nightmare. Agreed. The short sightedness of allowing it is horrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 What the owners have been arguing is that there is no reliable way to detect AI-based posts. Also, that AI can be a valid support tool for people writing in their second language. I'm sympathetic to the second point, but that could surely be covered by regulations with code being excluded; no idea to what extent the first is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Though I note that the moderators don't agree about not being able to spot the AI posts. Obviously not 100%, but pretty accurately. They typically have their own expect knowledge for example. And apparently often they are very obvious - e.g. a new user posting large numbers of verbose answers to a wide range of questions in very quick succession. Or posts flagged by multiple other users as being garbage. Also the owners seem to be arguing in bad faith - claiming that the moderators are using tools to identify the AI posts, when most of the moderators say that they re not. dog-days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 Reddit Message Boards Dark In Major Protest Over Fees For Third-Party Developers; Site Goes Down https://deadline.com/2023/06/reddit-message-boards-go-dark-private-mode-protest-api-developer-fees-1235414578/ Quote .... Dozens of the thousands of communities, called subreddits, that are now in blackout mode have over a million subscribers — from r/videos and r/reactiongifs to r/earthporn. The protests is expected to run for 48 hours, although some subreddits that depend on third parties could permanently shutter thereafter. In many cases it seems moderators can’t do what they need with just the tools available through the official app. Fees Reddit now wants to charge third-party software developers for access to the company’s API (application programming interface) could run into the millions annually, which many can’t afford. Reddit had indicated its intentions earlier this spring and the mass protest had been in the works for weeks. A subreddit moderator, BuckRowdy, wrote that third-party apps can “offer superior mod tools, customization, streamlined interfaces, and other quality of life improvements that the official app does not offer.” In an open letter that he asked other moderators to sign, he said: “The potential loss of these services due to the pricing change would significantly impact our ability to moderate efficiently.” He added, “the prohibitive cost threatens to make it difficult to mod from mobile, stifle innovation, limit user choice, and effectively shut down a significant portion of the culture we’ve all come to appreciate. Indeed, on May 31, 2023, when these changes were announced, every third party app developer on Reddit made essentially the same statement: ‘I will have to shut down the app.’ Apps can also no longer show ads which was a primary source of revenue. So not only do they have to pay exorbitant fees, they can’t even mitigate those fees with ads.” .... Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I don’t remember this being put up on a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: I don’t remember this being put up on a poll. How much longer before he attempts to make twitter subscription only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I admit, I loled. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/judge-ruled-twitter-must-be-evicted-from-colorado-office-over-unpaid-rent/ Quote A judge in Colorado recently authorized law enforcement to evict Twitter from an office building in Boulder, according to news reports. The ruling came after the Elon Musk-owned company was sued by the building's landlord over unpaid rent. "A judge for Boulder County's district court permitted law enforcement to evict the tenant on May 31, directing the tech giant to evacuate its suites at 3401 Bluff St. in Boulder and return them to the owner and landlord, Lot 2 SBO LLC," The Denver Post wrote yesterday. This kind of thing is remarkably short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 If you had any doubt that Elon was following the path blazed by Trump, you only have to look as far as the "stopped paying rent for no good reason" behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 Twit's been evicted from several buildings, including the headquarters in Silicon Valley, for non-payment of rent. It's deliberate on owner's part. Saving that rent as he builds, he says, the new headquarters in TX. There is this too, which all the musicians/composers/singers/songwriters have been talking about for a while: Twitter Hit With $250M Lawsuit From Music Publishers Over “Massive Copyright Infringement” Claim All of the platform's major competitors, including Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, have music licensing deals. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/twitter-lawsuit-music-publishers-1235515865/? Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Another awesome hoist by own petard moment - arbitration rulings that used to benefit companies are now being used as a legal DDoS attack as almost 2000 separate arbitration claims come forward after not getting their promised (and legally bound) severance: https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/16/twitters-lawyers-admit-theyre-overwhelmed-as-nearly-2000-laid-off-employees-file-arbitration-claims/ Quote Another important point: part of the purchase agreement that Musk signed (but apparently did not read very carefully, given his hilariously inept attempt to get out of it) was that employees under Musk’s ownership would get “substantially comparable benefits” to what they had under the old company, including severance payments: Parent shall, or shall cause the Surviving Corporation or any of their Affiliates to, provide for each Continuing Employee (i) at least the same base salary and wage rate, (ii) short- and long-term target incentive compensation opportunities that are no less favorable in the aggregate than those provided to each such Continuing Employee immediately prior to the Effective Time (provided that Parent shall not be obligated to provide such incentives in the form of equity or equity-based awards) and (iii) employee benefits (excluding equity and equity-based awards) which are substantially comparable in the aggregate (including with respect to the proportion of employee cost) to those provided to such Continuing Employee immediately prior to the Effective Time. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, during the Continuation Period, Parent shall provide, or shall cause the Surviving Corporation or any of their Affiliates to provide severance payments and benefits to each Continuing Employee whose employment is terminated during such period that are no less favorable than those applicable to the Continuing Employee immediately prior to the Effective Time under the Company Benefit Plans. And because this law firm personally hates Musk we might get to see almost 2000 separate depositions of Musk. Quote The law firm is even arguing that if there need to be depositions, they should be universal across all for firms that are representing claims, or otherwise even having people give four separate depositions for each firm would be too much. Well, yeah, maybe Twitter should have thought of that before laying off everyone without providing them the proper severance? Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorn Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 A funny twist in the Reddit saga - one of the most popular subreddits with over 11 million members, r/interestingasfuck, has abolished its rules against posting porn, turning it into a NSFW subreddit. This was intended as a way of sticking it to the Reddit management, since they cannot run ads on it anymore. As a hilarious* and probably unintended consequence, tens of millions of unsuspecting Reddit users who are either casual members of this subreddit or who visited it in the past have been greeted in their Home feed by a photo of some dude's unshaved butthole, or hardcore (and I mean hardcore) porn GIFs. Since these porn posts are being gleefully upvoted, Reddit's algorithms have recognized them as hot and popular new content, and push them on top of people's Home feeds. * maybe not so hilarious for people who opened Reddit on their work computers Kalbear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 Woo! I am even happier that I don 't have and never visited a reddit in mine life. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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