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Getting 30 points in 113 combined minutes from Klay, Dray, Wiggins and Poole is a disgrace. 

Still don't see any way the lakers beat Denver but they've done very well getting this far from where they were a while back. 

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8 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Getting 30 points in 113 combined minutes from Klay, Dray, Wiggins and Poole is a disgrace. 

Still don't see any way the lakers beat Denver but they've done very well getting this far from where they were a while back. 

Hindsight is 20/20, but they really fucked up not trading their young players for another star.

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They’ve drafted very badly in the time they dipped. They had a chance to really reload but they’ve whiffed on their picks. Poole was a good pick from where they got him but they blew it with an early resign.

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At the end of last season, they were expecting Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody to step up. This season, Wiseman got traded, Kuminga is out of the rotation and Moody is just filling in. Even Poole has taken a dip, although as I mentioned before, he seems like the type that needs a lot of reps to maintain his form. With Curry/Klay/Wiggins all available, his wheels starts to fall off. 

I think its just another example of how we can't expect steady linear progression from players.

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...You guys are talking about the same Golden State Warriors that won the championship just last year when no one expected them to, right?  Swear to jeebus this thread is more reactionary than the John Birch Society.

I mean, yeah, the draft picks didn't work out - although I wouldn't give up on Kuminga just yet if I were them.  Y'all sound like the most annoying Yankees fans expecting them to continue to dominate for years on end.  They had a good run.

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I don't have an opinion on Kuminga and Moody. They don't play enough in the first place. And Wiseman was traded.

My concern is Poole. Think it was clear even from last season when they won, his form dipped when both Curry and Klay were available. And this season, he started to play better when Wiggins was out. Maybe its just correlation, but I think its a pattern.

Anyway, the Warriors will continue to compete as long as Curry is healthy. Its just that the gradual passing of the torch is looking less smooth than it did last year.

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8 minutes ago, Proudfeet said:

My concern is Poole.

Sure, that was a bad contract to give out.  Pretty clear it was at the time, too.  Thing is, that doesn't really have to do with the Warriors' efforts to acquire premium draft picks.  Dude was the 28th pick.  You can acquire that with a couple loads of laundry.

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3 minutes ago, DMC said:

Sure, that was a bad contract to give out.  Pretty clear it was at the time, too.  Thing is, that doesn't really have to do with the Warriors' efforts to acquire premium draft picks.  Dude was the 28th pick.  You can acquire that with a couple loads of laundry.

Ah, I don't generally remember where players are drafted. I was just working off what the expectations were end of last season. And actually, if my memory serves me right, they were expected to contribute at the start of last season. Its kind of a catch 22, they don't get better without playing, but they don't get playtime without being better. Unfortunately, it seems that in general coaches require the players to breakthrough on their own unless there is an injury that moves them ahead in the depth chart.

I am optimistic Poole can live up to his contract, but he needs the ball. His defense needs to improve as well, but that can be mitigated by the team covering for him. 

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5 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Refs really trying to help New York tonight. Shocker.

Uh huh. Yeah. They sure were. Massive 7 free throw difference. 

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? 

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7 hours ago, Relic said:

Uh huh. Yeah. They sure were. Massive 7 free throw difference. 

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? 

They put them in the bonus right away in the fourth and the Heat players clearly couldn't defend them the same way they had been. And the Knicks on the other end were committing the exact same kind of fouls and refs weren't giving them. Bam was getting clubbed for example and they just swallowed their whistles. 

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2 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

They put them in the bonus right away in the fourth and the Heat players clearly couldn't defend them the same way they had been. And the Knicks on the other end were committing the exact same kind of fouls and refs weren't giving them. Bam was getting clubbed for example and they just swallowed their whistles. 

Yeah man, totally rigged. 

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11 minutes ago, Relic said:

Yeah man, totally rigged. 

It's not rigged, but there is bias and if you think the refs don't know who the league prefers to advance you're kidding yourself. Their primary goal is to make as much money as possible. This is true of every spots league. Do you think MLB would be happy if the World Series is the Royals vs the Marlins? Or would they drool over the idea of Dodgers vs Yankees? 

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Miami is still a pretty big media market.  It's not like San Antonio or Kansas City.  I agree with your general point but as per usual you're taking it to the extremes.

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14 minutes ago, DMC said:

Miami is still a pretty big media market.  It's not like San Antonio or Kansas City.  I agree with your general point but as per usual you're taking it to the extremes.

Because you have to take it there to hammer it home. These leagues are not egalitarian. I wish they were, but they never will be, especially with all the corporate Wall St bros taking over. NFL, NBA, MLB, FIFA, NCAA, etc. they're all corrupt and I wish people would get mad about it. 

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5 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

These leagues are not egalitarian

I mean, I don't think they've ever pretended to be.  And insofar as instituting socialist/redistributive policies, most of the leagues are far and beyond the United States government.  So, not sure what you're expecting.

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15 minutes ago, DMC said:

I mean, I don't think they've ever pretended to be.  And insofar as instituting socialist/redistributive policies, most of the leagues are far and beyond the United States government.  So, not sure what you're expecting.

It's a built in part of the lie they're trying to sell. And not it's even dirtier with gambling being legalized. 

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I mean, welcome to capitalism.  I'm totally on the side of labor when it comes to CBAs, but you're talking about the relative competitiveness of teams in certain markets.  There's always going to be somewhat of a bias there between filthy rich owners and I don't really feel bad about that.

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