Mrstrategy Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 What if Jon Snow had streaks of White hair when Growing up how would it had affected Ned Stark's plans to hide him from Robert? https://pin.it/379jIIj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James West Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Jon Snow's parents both have dark hair. Lyanna + Mance = Jon. The closest alternative are Lyanna and Brandon = Jon. Bailor's hair was such because he was part Targaryen. Darkstar, not Jon Snow, is the Haff-Targ. BlackLightning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, James West said: Lyanna + Mance = Jon. The closest alternative are Lyanna and Brandon = Jon. Yea but Mance is Rhaegar, and Brandon is Benjen, who's Coldhands, and since Coldhands is the Night's King, Jon is basically the king of the Others, the inbred monster son of his future self. BlackLightning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 17 minutes ago, Daeron the Daring said: Yea but Mance is Rhaegar, and Brandon is Benjen, who's Coldhands, and since Coldhands is the Night's King, Jon is basically the king of the Others, the inbred monster son of his future self. No silly. Jon is the Great Other reborn Aelwen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 3 hours ago, Mrstrategy said: What if Jon Snow had streaks of White hair when Growing up how would it had affected Ned Stark's plans to hide him from Robert? https://pin.it/379jIIj To answer you OP, if Jon only had streaks of silver, he could probably dye it. A streak would be easily explainable. If he had the full head of silver hair along with violet eyes, it’d be a significantly harder sell. But Darkstar has the look, so perhaps Ned would full on steer into the Ashara Dayne theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 It probably would have forced Ned to bring Cat in on the lie, which may have been beneficial in the long run. I don't think we've seen instances of poliosis in Westeros, but if it happens then depending on Jon's streaks it might not have mattered at all. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Tyrion has streaks. No one questions that. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Westeros has hair dye ,hed have to let cat know probably. The storoes about him would probably.focus on the daynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buried Treasure Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 15 hours ago, Mrstrategy said: What if Jon Snow had streaks of White hair when Growing up It would have fed into the rumours already going round Winterfell that he is a half-Dayne bastard. That family sometimes runs to silvery hair and purple eyes. Quote how would it had affected Ned Stark's plans to hide him from Robert? Ned would have been even more cautious about keeping his family close to Winterfell, and Jon out of sight of anybody not part of his household. If Jon had not possessed the Stark look so strongly and had instead resembled his other parent then Ned might have sent him away when Robert's cause came to Winterfell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Well, he would've been forced to tell Catelyn...and he might have needed to rely on the Ashara Dayne cover story. 16 minutes ago, Buried Treasure said: It would have fed into the rumours already going round Winterfell that he is a half-Dayne bastard. That family sometimes runs to silvery hair and purple eyes. The family runs to purple eyes. Darkstar is the exception not the rule. I don't think silver hair is a Dayne feature 17 minutes ago, Buried Treasure said: Ned would have been even more cautious about keeping his family close to Winterfell, and Jon out of sight of anybody not part of his household. This I don't think Jon would have been confined to his quarters and the tower in which they are held. Matter of fact, the more I think about it, if Jon ended up looking more Targaryen than Stark, then I feel like Jon's story would have resembled the story of Harry Potter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 21 hours ago, James West said: Jon Snow's parents both have dark hair. Lyanna + Mance = Jon. The closest alternative are Lyanna and Brandon = Jon. Dare I ask, what is the basis for either assertion? Particularly the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 It would just mean Jon's mother might be blonde. It's not an uncommon hair color in the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 30 minutes ago, sifth said: It would just mean Jon's mother might be blonde. It's not an uncommon hair color in the story. Yeah, it's nothing Ned can't blag even if questions were asked. That he'd been so cagey about the identity of Jon's mother would help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 As long as Ned is assumed to be Jon's father, him having a Targaryen parent is not likely to occur to anyone. While Robert might be able to see him at Winterfell when he came after Arryn's death, they would have little interaction since Jon is a bastard. Any silver hair would likely be put down to Dornish heritage. The Daynes might come into it, though I suspect Ashara was still pregnant when Jon was conceived, so can't be named. As long as Ned remains silent, tongues may wag, but that's all. Lyanna's name probably won't come into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 5/3/2023 at 4:39 AM, James West said: Jon Snow's parents both have dark hair. Lyanna + Mance = Jon. The closest alternative are Lyanna and Brandon = Jon. An average human gestation lasts for almost 40 weeks not 104 weeks. Craving Peaches and kissdbyfire 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 7 minutes ago, Lilac & Gooseberries said: An average human gestation lasts for almost 40 weeks not 104 weeks. There are only 4 possibilities when it comes to Jon’s parentage 1. Rhaegar and Lyanna 2. Ned and Wylla 3. Ned and Ashara 4. Brandon and Ashara Any other theory is just plainly wrong. Unworthy of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 39 minutes ago, Lady Stonehearts Simp said: 3. Ned and Ashara 4. Brandon and Ashara As much as I would prefer Jon not being Rhaegar's seed but instead Ned's, or Brandon's, neither of those choice is possible. Brandon died 2 years before Jon's birth and the only time Ned and Ashara were in the same place was even before Brandon's death. I do think that Ned and Ashara had a child. But they had a daughter not a son. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 39 minutes ago, Lilac & Gooseberries said: As much as I would prefer Jon not being Rhaegar's seed but instead Ned's, or Brandon's, neither of those choice is possible. Brandon died 2 years before Jon's birth and the only time Ned and Ashara were in the same place was even before Brandon's death. I do think that Ned and Ashara had a child. But they had a daughter not a son. I've heard you cite that two year period before but I don't think that's anywhere close to being correct. Based on what George has specifically stated about Jon's date of birth, Jon almost certainly had to be born before the Sack and most probably born before the Trident. Unless you want to argue that Dany is not the offspring of Aerys and Rhaella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 50 minutes ago, Frey family reunion said: Jon almost certainly had to be born before the Sack and most probably born before the Trident. Unless you want to argue that Dany is not the offspring of Aerys and Rhaella. Well then who was born at the Tower of Joy in that case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Craving Peaches said: Well then who was born at the Tower of Joy in that case? How do you know anyone was born at the tower of joy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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