UK Politics: Picking Your Career

[Gaston de Foix]

18 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

Yeah. I think the queen only clung onto life so long so he woudlnt be her last PM, and to deprive him of showboating at her funeral. 
She died within hours of him fucking up. Had she died a l couple days earlier, he’d have used that as an excuse to cling on for a while later and hope everyone forgot he was resigning

To be fair to Boris, his hero Churchill did exactly that half a century earlier.   

[Spockydog]

 

 

[Derfel Cadarn]

General election this year?

[Gaston de Foix]

9 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

General election this year?

What exactly has Rishi done to Boris? Genuine question, because I am confused by BoJo's allies going apeshit. Seems like he's rolled over and shown his belly at every turn.  He's funded Boris' legal defence.  

[Derfel Cadarn]

17 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said:

What exactly has Rishi done to Boris? Genuine question, because I am confused by BoJo's allies going apeshit. Seems like he's rolled over and shown his belly at every turn.  He's funded Boris' legal defence.  

Sunak’s resignation was a big part of what spurred the Toey revellion thst brought johnson down. Apparently Johnson and his supporters hold a particular grudge over it and really didnt want him to be PM (hence Rees-Mogg supporting Truss)

[Gaston de Foix]

Just now, Derfel Cadarn said:

Sunak’s resignation was a big part of what spurred the Toey revellion thst brought johnson down. Apparently Johnson and his supporters hold a particular grudge over it and really didnt want him to be PM (hence Rees-Mogg supporting Truss)

Thank you, but what I was wondering is what is the latest transgression Rishi has committed in relation to the police referral? What is he alleged to have done?

For example this passage from Politico EU (https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-sacks-lawyers-after-police-referral-over-covid-rule-breaking-claims/): 

Johnson’s office issued a punchy statement Wednesday night accusing successor Rishi Sunak’s government of “a politically motivated stitch-up” by making “unfounded suggestions both to the police and to the privileges committee,” a team of MPs carrying out its own probe into Johnson’s conduct.

Is Boris Johnson basically blaming the government lawyers representing him for referring him to the police? Why did they do that? And what does Rishi have to do with it?

The whole thing seems like a headscratcher. 

[Gaston de Foix]

38 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

General election this year?

My fervent hope is that Boris manages to piss off the Tory MPs on the privileges committee even more (through these shenanigans) and they suspend him for more than 10 days, thus triggering a by-election he loses.  

[Denvek]

1 hour ago, Gaston de Foix said:

Is Boris Johnson basically blaming the government lawyers representing him for referring him to the police? Why did they do that? And what does Rishi have to do with it?

Not the lawyers, but the civil servants. Because he's using government lawyers and not his own, the lawyers' client isn't actually him, but the civil service. So the lawyers are allowed to show everything they found to the civil service, and the civil service are then professionally obligated to report evidence of potential crimes to the police.

But because this makes Johnson look bad, he claims that the civil servants did this not because they're required to, but because they don't like him and this is a witch-hunt.

Sunak has literally nothing to do with this, according to both the government and the civil service, but he's the Prime Minister and Johnson doesn't like him, so obviously it's all his fault.

[williamjm]

7 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

 

Getting into further trouble because he is too cheap to pay for his own lawyers to defend himself from the things we already knew about is Peak Boris.

[Spockydog]

Undisclosed Covid-era Johnson events occurred at both Chequers and Downing Street

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About a dozen previously undisclosed gatherings at both Chequers and Downing Street allegedly held during Covid have been referred to the police by civil servants, the Guardian has been told.

Further details of the new Partygate accusations emerged as Boris Johnson’s allies launched a furious fightback, forcing Downing Street to deny he was the victim of a politically motivated stitch up.

Government sources said approximately 12 potentially illegal events formed the basis of a dossier handed over to two police forces last week. While it was initially thought they were all held at the prime minister’s Buckinghamshire grace-and-favour mansion Chequers, insiders said they also took place in No 10.

They were said to include events which did not form part of the Met police’s investigation last year, nor the Whitehall inquiry led by then-senior civil servant Sue Gray.

After Johnson’s allies made clear their fury at the situation, No 10 stressed Rishi Sunak had no involvement in the decision to hand over the former prime minister’s pandemic diaries.

“We have not seen the information or material in question,” said Sunak’s official spokesperson on Wednesday, adding that ministers had “no involvement in this process and were only made aware after the police had been contacted”.

 

*strokes chin*

[Spockydog]

 

 

[The Anti-Targ]

16 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

Sunak’s resignation was a big part of what spurred the Toey revellion thst brought johnson down. Apparently Johnson and his supporters hold a particular grudge over it and really didnt want him to be PM (hence Rees-Mogg supporting Truss)

Best typo ever. Non-words they may be, but they are still full of meaning and fit the context perfectly.

16 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said:

Johnson’s office issued a punchy statement Wednesday night accusing successor Rishi Sunak’s government 

 

The person who should be most upset about that phrase is Liz Truss. Poor Liz.

Edited May 25, 2023 by The Anti-Targ

[Gaston de Foix]

1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Best typo ever. Non-words they may be, but they are still full of meaning and fit the context perfectly.

The person who should be most upset about that phrase is Liz Truss. Poor Liz.

To steal from the greats, one must have a heart of stone to read about Liz's omission without laughing.  

[Derfel Cadarn]

 

[Pebble thats Stubby]

Was it not Sullea who alleagedly asked if any future speeding ticket fines can be put on expenses when she firt became an MP?

[Spockydog]

 

 

[Raja]

If I were a permenant resident or a citizen, I could leave my job and just do locums, and earn *way* more money for the exact same job.

It's such an absurdity.

[BigFatCoward]

Met police are no longer going to attend MH only calls.

Which is right, huge waste of our time and we don't have the required skills, but who is going to pick up the slack? 

[The Anti-Targ]

Whomever other than police have the legal authority to detain people without their consent I suppose. Is there anyone other than police who can do that without having to apply to the courts first?

[BigFatCoward]

1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Whomever other than police have the legal authority to detain people without their consent I suppose. Is there anyone other than police who can do that without having to apply to the courts first?

Those services are already stretched to capacity, that's why we end up doing it. What will happen is nobody will do it. And people in need of MH assistance won't get it unless they turn violent.