US Politics: #Musky DeSaster

[Phylum of Alexandria]

7 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

To me it’s the aftertaste, but really I’m not much of a drinker because I always get hangovers and rarely get drunk, so it’s like buying the ticket but not getting the ride. Also years of tending bar turned me off the smell of beer specifically. Anyways, thankfully I do not have an abnormally high tolerance to weed, so I’m not left handing out pamphlets on street corners or w/e.

Yeah, most alcohol I have to just admire from a distance these days, as even one drink tends to screw up my sleep that night. Sake seems to be an exception, but the stuff worth drinking is expensive where I am, so more often than not I just stick with water!

 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

11 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Every school I went to kept the library open over the summer. All I recall them doing is slowly examining the shelves to make sure everything had been returned at the end of the year. Never anything like what was in that video.

Talking about Libraries, asked my Law Doctorate guy, if the vanishing/destroyed books is a real thing with law students.

Stolen/loaned out books is a classic. So is hiding text books in the library. Those things actually happen. Damaged/destroyed books is something he hasn't encountered. 

On a seperate note, is there a reason why there hasn't been a new ep of Last Week Tonight? I mean, the season can't be over just now, or have they shortened it?

[Gaston de Foix]

17 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Talking about Libraries, asked my Law Doctorate guy, if the vanishing/destroyed books is a real thing with law students.

Stolen/loaned out books is a classic. So is hiding text books in the library. Those things actually happen. Damaged/destroyed books is something he hasn't encountered. 

On a seperate note, is there a reason why there hasn't been a new ep of Last Week Tonight? I mean, the season can't be over just now, or have they shortened it?

Loaned out books is in fact how libraries are supposed to work.  Is there a rush on books come exam season? Sure.  Do people sometimes take books without checking them out.  Also true.  The competitiveness of lawyers is in fact a (minor) plot point in GGK's Fionovar Tapestry trilogy.  I won't deny any of that. 

But accusing us of being book vandals like we were all RDS is a bridge too far and I won't stand for it. 

[karaddin]

26 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

On a seperate note, is there a reason why there hasn't been a new ep of Last Week Tonight? I mean, the season can't be over just now, or have they shortened it?

The writers strike. Would kinda go against his branding to use scabs even if they were willing to do so.

[Mlle. Zabzie]

14 minutes ago, karaddin said:

The writers strike. Would kinda go against his branding to use scabs even if they were willing to do so.

I am friends with one of his writers from high school.  They are a pretty tight-knit group, and don't think they would be willing.  Writers strike will keep them shut down until a deal is reached.  

[A Horse Named Stranger]

16 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said:

Loaned out books is in fact how libraries are supposed to work.  Is there a rush on books come exam season? Sure.  Do people sometimes take books without checking them out.  Also true.  The competitiveness of lawyers is in fact a (minor) plot point in GGK's Fionovar Tapestry trilogy.  I won't deny any of that. 

But accusing us of being book vandals like we were all RDS is a bridge too far and I won't stand for it. 

Yeah, but you are als supposed to return them, so I probably should have used quotation marks on the "loaned" bit, and you are not supposed to hog them esp. during exam time. And while you can loan a certain number of copies, there're also "presence copies" which are supposed to stay in the library. The stuff that end up being stashed away/hidden. 

Anyway, was just a small throwback to the discussion in the old pol. thread.

[Gaston de Foix]

Just now, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Yeah, but you are als supposed to return them, so I probably should have used quotation marks on the "loaned" bit, and you are not supposed to hog them esp. during exam time. And while you can loan a certain number of copies, there're also "presence copies" which are supposed to stay in the library. The stuff that end up being stashed away/hidden. 

Anyway, was just a small throwback to the discussion in the old pol. thread.

Sigh.  A large majority of lawyers just end up giving Scott and me a bad name.  

[LongRider]

1 hour ago, Phylum of Alexandria said:

I ruined vodka for the rest of my life as early as age 17! 

Me too!  And don't even mention tequila.  

[karaddin]

6 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

I am friends with one of his writers from high school.  They are a pretty tight-knit group, and don't think they would be willing.  Writers strike will keep them shut down until a deal is reached.  

Yeah, that part was just there for anyone that views him very cynically - I certainly don't take it as just branding. They're by far the best at expressing genuine leftist positions on a whole range of issues of any mainstream media show/publication that I've seen, if you're so inclined then pass along a thanks for the compassion they bring to their coverage of every issue.

[LongRider]

Shelf reading also finds books put in the wrong places.  Think how many books are actually in the library but 'missing' because some student workers put the book on the wrong shelf three shelves away.   When I worked in a warehouse for a used book website, books that didn't sell after a set period of time were culled and dumped in big boxes and titles didn't matter.   The company also bought used books that came to the warehouse in big boxes.  Books being culled are dumped in big boxes as seen in the video.  

[A Horse Named Stranger]

Was not making any implications on John Oliver. The writers strike in the US was just something that's not that present on the other side of the Atlantic.

I mean, I don't expect any of you to know about the Schlesinger scandal either. I was just wondering why there was not new content, and was simply not taking the writers strike into account.

 

[Phylum of Alexandria]

9 minutes ago, LongRider said:

Shelf reading also finds books put in the wrong places.  Think how many books are actually in the library but 'missing' because some student workers put the book on the wrong shelf three shelves away.   When I worked in a warehouse for a used book website, books that didn't sell after a set period of time were culled and dumped in big boxes and titles didn't matter.   The company also bought used books that came to the warehouse in big boxes.  Books being culled are dumped in big boxes as seen in the video.  

I don't know if this is the same thing as lazy/clueless student workers, but I find that disorder in clothing and grocery stores is so much more common in the US than Japan, due to the fact that American customers aren't trained to give a fuck, and they just do what's easiest to them, like putting a cheese they don't want in the cracker section. One of the shortcomings of individualism, perhaps?

What about other cultures? Where do they sit on the tidy/shitshow divide?

 

[karaddin]

1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Was not making any implications on John Oliver. The writers strike in the US was just something that's not that present on the other side of the Atlantic.

I mean, I don't expect any of you to know about the Schlesinger scandal either. I was just wondering why there was not new content, and was simply not taking the writers strike into account.

Didn't think you were, was just covering my bases for others that might be reading the thread. I doubt anyone inclined to that interpretation would be missing new episodes lol 

[Zorral]

14 hours ago, karaddin said:

But there are very credible replies saying that this is just end of year inventory for the library, don't you conduct an inventory by throwing everything into a jumbled pile in boxes?

Not in the least how a library operates.

Except -- when the early dot.com bust happened and suddenly all those young tech bros were jobless and there were no jobs, so they glommed onto library/information sciences and as soon as they got promoted way over the heads of women too over libraries such as the scandal of the San Francisco system and DUMPED BOOKS into dumpsters behind the libraries, many of them extremely valuable, one of a kind, because, "It's all digitized."  NOT IT IS NOT.  Enormous numbers of invaluable books were lost across the country.  The thing is, these tech bros cannot bear to deal with things/materiality, and they sure as hell hate ordering and organizing this -- which in a library, or a household, has to be performed constantly, so that things can be accessed/found.  They don't want to be bothered with those repetitive tasks.

So now, many libraries, like my own university library -- most of the books are gone from the shelves and are, hopefully, "in storage."

By the way there was an depth, researched piece on this in the New Yorker when it happened.

Edited May 23 by Zorral

[Tywin et al.]

2 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Talking about Libraries, asked my Law Doctorate guy, if the vanishing/destroyed books is a real thing with law students.

Stolen/loaned out books is a classic. So is hiding text books in the library. Those things actually happen. Damaged/destroyed books is something he hasn't encountered. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

I am friends with one of his writers from high school.  They are a pretty tight-knit group, and don't think they would be willing.  Writers strike will keep them shut down until a deal is reached.  

Yep. Two family members are close to it (not on Oliver's show) and their view is that the writers aren't going to back down. We shall see. 

[LongRider]

36 minutes ago, Zorral said:

such as the scandal of the San Francisco system and DUMPED BOOKS into dumpsters behind the libraries, many of them extremely valuable, one of a kind, because, "It's all digitized." 

Revolting.    

[Mindwalker]

Breaking, acc. to MSNBC: DeSatan to announce his candidacy on twitter, w Elon Musk.

Oooh, Citizen T. will be furious!

[maarsen]

21 minutes ago, Mindwalker said:

Breaking, acc. to MSNBC: DeSatan to announce his candidacy on twitter, w Elon Musk.

Oooh, Citizen T. will be furious!

Doesn't he then have to resign as the governor of Florida? Doesn't every cloud have a silver lining?

[Kalnak the Magnificent]

1 minute ago, maarsen said:

Doesn't he then have to resign as the governor of Florida? Doesn't every cloud have a silver lining?

I believe not; IIRC he had his congress rubber stamp a law to let him do just that.

[Tywin et al.]

25 minutes ago, Kalnestk Oblast said:

I believe not; IIRC he had his congress rubber stamp a law to let him do just that.

With a side of more voting restrictions too. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/28/florida-legislature-desantis-presidential-run-00094467#:~:text=Florida-,Florida Legislature passes bill allowing DeSantis to run for president,in the next few weeks.&text=TALLAHASSEE%2C Fla.