Daemon the Leaner Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: Liverpool paying 35 million for a proven Premier league talent is already the bargain of the summer transfer window. Absolute steal. City, Chelsea or us would have been told to pay 70 M for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Iskaral Pust Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: Liverpool paying 35 million for a proven Premier league talent is already the bargain of the summer transfer window. Absolute steal. Yes, and I think Gakpo and Diaz look like great deals too. It’s only Darwin Nunez that doesn’t look great value so far — and he could still improve (but I don’t have much faith in that right now). Before him, you’d have to go back to Keita as our last big transfer miss, because I’d call Ox a success until that terrible knee injury — bad luck more than bad transfer. Considering how well we’ve done with transfers, it’s a bit shocking that our greatest weakness has been inaction on transfers and extending contracts too long. With our track record, you would think we’d be more willing to roll the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Feel like it's difficult to call any transfer a bargain before you've seen a player play for said team but I get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Fitting title for the final tomorrow, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said: Considering how well we’ve done with transfers, it’s a bit shocking that our greatest weakness has been inaction on transfers and extending contracts too long. With our track record, you would think we’d be more willing to roll the dice. Maybe not just "rolling the dice" is the reason why Liverpool's transfers track record is what it is? If the reported 35M£ signing fee is correct, then it sure was a bargain (even with the rumoured 20M£ in add-ons) especially when considering how Brighton handled selling their main players in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Daemon the Leaner said: City, Chelsea or us would have been told to pay 70 M for him He had a release clause. Anyone signing him would have payed 35 million. This was not some magical negotiating from Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: I think Isk was being a little flippant there, not suggesting we should have taken massive risks. The fact remains that we've completely written off two of Klopp's seasons at Liverpool now through leaving glaring weaknesses in the squad unchecked at the start of the campaign. Absolutely fucking idiotic. This. For the past 8-9 years we’ve had more consistent transfer success than our top-6 rivals (City used their money to paper over their transfer misses). We should have been more willing to lean into that advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I wonder though if Liverpool’s transfer success in selling may have run out of fuel. Just looking at how Mane and Origi fared last season, after Gini too, it doesn’t seem like many clubs will pay a premium in the expectation that Liverpool players can carry over their impact to another club. Just like Ibe, Smith, Wilson, Brewster and others killed the premium for Liverpool youth players. Selling well was half of the equation. But our recruitment still seems good when we bother to do it. Inbound panic loans have probably been our weakest aspect: Caulker, Arthur Melo, anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 As someone mentioned Keita. He has found a new club. Werder gave him a three year contract. Fair to say that's more than a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Canada Soccer reporting today that Phil Neville has joined our MNT coaching staff. Spockydog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I don't particularly fault the Liverpool recruitment process over the past six years. One season had a shortfall as a result of injuries to four central defenders. Two seasons were stunted as a result of widespread injuries to midfielders. Sandwiched in between was a relatively healthy season that resulted in a league winning effort. All three injury seasons, on paper, looked like they should have been highly successful at the start of the season. And in each season, the onset of unexpected injuries wiped out most of either the expected starters in central defense or midfield. The team had the right numbers and quality of players at the seasons' starts. And then last season was the bridge too far in terms of players exhaustion from participating in every possible game in every possible competition in the previous season. Prior to that, Klopp's lowest finish in the league for a full season has been fourth despite these spates of injuries. Also, despite the injuries, the three highest points totals for the club have also come within the last six years, bettering every other team, even including the all-conquering days of Rush, Souness, Dalglish, Barnes, Whelan, Nicol, etc. in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I think FSG just got complacent. Milner, Keita and Ox should have been replaced before the start of this past season - it was apparent maybe 3 seasons ago that Milner's legs were going and Keita and Ox were far too injury prone and inconsistent. That complacency has cost them CL football for a season but Liverpool should have no problems finishing in the top 4 next season. They do have the second-best squad in the league currently and aren't exactly miles off from City in terms of squad strength. A few (3-4) good signings and their squad depth will be comparable to City's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Consigliere said: I think FSG just got complacent. Milner, Keita and Ox should have been replaced before the start of this past season - it was apparent maybe 3 seasons ago that Milner's legs were going and Keita and Ox were far too injury prone and inconsistent. I don't know about complacent, that's a little harsh. They obviously were aware that midfield was where they needed to strengthen and they did try to buy Tchouameni last summer and planned to get Bellingham this summer. They overestimated how much their current midfielders had left to give though and with the benefit of hindsight having missed out on their main target last summer they should have gone to someone else. If they're interested in, say, Gravenberch now last summer would have been a better time to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Gravenberch was a real miss last summer for only 20 million. And then Bayern hardly played him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 In the DoF/Sporting Director market. Monchi wants to leave Sevilla. After their rather rocky season with him getting a lot of stick, too. Monchi has said he wants out. His presumed destination Aston Villa. Sevilla disagree. Their position, if you want to leave, you have to pay us a year of your salary (~3m €), or you won't be able to take a new job for two years. I can kinda see, why Sevilla don't want to part with him in the middle of the preparations for next season, but they are rumoredly already scouting the market for a successor, with Orta (formerly Leeds) being the frontrunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeyjack Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Iskaral Pust said: Gravenberch was a real miss last summer for only 20 million. And then Bayern hardly played him. I followed that situation a bit last year, and if I remember correctly, the only reason Gravenberch went for such a low price was because he insisted on going to Bayern. Would have cost a lot more if it had been open to other teams. Kind of curious if he'll be on the move again this summer. Articles seem to indicate that his connection there was with Salihamidzic, who is gone now. And he was also upset about barely playing this past year. Plus, they just signed Laimer. Edited June 9, 2023 by Whiskeyjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Anybody else hoping or Dzeko to score the GWG. baxus and Daemon the Leaner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Seems legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Also, this united takeover stuff is almost as funny as their pursuit of De Jong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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