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20 minutes ago, Hippocras said:

You are really confusing me as to what you are trying to say. She already DID send him to Braavos. We just never specifically saw him leave.

I think the point is that the Mercy chapter (as it was published on the internet) and the Kevan epilogue chapter (as it appeared in ADWD) can not reasonably exist in the same book, because Swyft was still in King's Landing at the end of the epilogue. But since GRRM had plans to include the Mercy chapter in ADWD, either the epilogue was (re)written after GRRM decided to move the Mercy chapter or that Mercy chapter we know is not what GRRM intended to include in ADWD.

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On 11/29/2023 at 7:29 AM, Mithras said:

Shadrich and 3 Sunderland brothers kidnap Sansa. They bring her to King's Landing and sell her to Cersei.

That means going back to book 1 for Sansa, and I very much doubt that's going to happen. There are a lot of things happening in KL as it is, without inserting Sansa there, again.

I think Sansa is done with KL, for good. Her story is going to continue either in Vale or WF, or both.

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57 minutes ago, Hippocras said:

You are really confusing me as to what you are trying to say. She already DID send him to Braavos. We just never specifically saw him leave.

No, we don't know that, as the Epilogue as published makes it clear that Kevan and Mace made the decision to send Swyft to Braavos, not some queen. That 'the queen' that is talked about in the Mercy sample chapter actually is Cersei is also just a supposition, as the queen in question is not named.

21 minutes ago, The Wondering Wolf said:

I think the point is that the Mercy chapter (as it was published on the internet) and the Kevan epilogue chapter (as it appeared in ADWD) can not reasonably exist in the same book, because Swyft was still in King's Landing at the end of the epilogue. But since GRRM had plans to include the Mercy chapter in ADWD, either the epilogue was (re)written after GRRM decided to move the Mercy chapter or that Mercy chapter we know is not what GRRM intended to include in ADWD.

As I said above, it is not just that. Yes, the Epilogue would have to be rewritten, but we would also need more Cersei chapters in ADwD for the Mercy chapter to make sense there as Raff still has to return to KL and Swyft would have to get his mission specifically from Cersei.

Also, of course, the plot of Varys murdering the Lord Regent in the Epilogue to create more turmoil would not work in such a scenario as a Cersei sending Swyft to Braavos would need to run the government again for such a decision - but a Kevan toppled as the regent by a Cersei getting out of prison somehow would not be needed to be murdered by Varys.

This notion that

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https://grrm.livejournal.com/107286.html?thread=7324438#t7324438

GRRM said he finished and removed Mercy to TWoW in 2009.

https://grrm.livejournal.com/362384.html

But after releasing the Mercy sample chapter, he said that the decision to remove Mercy was made "shortly before ADWD was published".

https://grrm.livejournal.com/156885.html

GRRM mentioned working on the Epilogue of ADwD in 2010, a year after he originally said he removed Mercy to TWoW. But it is possible that this might not be the final version of the Epilogue he worked on. If AFfC is a measure, he might have written several versions from the POV of several different characters. He might have even considered totally different event as an Epilogue.

As for Kevan, he seemed to have wildly different ideas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/18519cz/spoilers_extended_grrms_20032004_outline_for_affc/

In the AFfC outline before the split, GRRM wanted to have Kevan POV at  Casterly Rock "ready for winter".

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/z0x0qp/spoilers_extended_secrets_of_the_cushing_library/

There was also a mystery of missing Kevan which was removed from AFfC chapters before publication.

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