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Wake the Dragon II (Birth of Dragons)


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"Once there were two moons in the sky, but one wandered too close to the sun and cracked from the heat.  A thousand thousand dragons poured forth, and drank the fire of the sun.  That is why dragons breathe flame.  One day the other moon will kiss the sun too, and then it will crack and the dragons will return."

Doreah was telling Daenerys where Dragons came from. 

Irri said, "You are foolish strawhead slave.  Moon is no egg.  Moon is god, woman wife of sun.  It is known."

Doreah is a beautiful blonde Lysene.  Irri is a Dothraki girl, one of the handmaidens serving Daenerys.

George Martin took great pains to set up the gender flexibility of Dragons.  High Valyrian is also a gender neutral language.  A gender reversal for the Sun from the story to the present day happened.  Daenerys is the Sun.  To quote Tyrion, she is "Aegon the Conqueror with teats."  The Prince(ss) That Was Promised and Azor Ahai.  The Moon is Khal Drogo. 

The second Moon can apply to Quentyn Martell.  The suitor who got too close to the Sun and got burned for trying to steal the Dragons.  He released Rhaegal and Viserion from a stone prison. 

This is the myth of the creation of Dragons.  It makes for a lovely story.  We know the dragons did not really come from the moon.  The story is a historical account of what happened long ago.  Khal Drogo and Daenerys in their previous lives hatched dragon eggs.  They were reincarnated and are always fated to marry.  One dies and Dragons are born. 

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No Dany is the moon. Moon of my life, Drogo sun and stars.

Particularly the moon is pregnant Dany. The moon drank from the sun, Dany was impregnated by Drogo, the moon cracked and brought forth dragons, Dany gave "birth" to Rhaego and his soul served to bring forth dragons.

That there will be another moon is foreshadowing Dany being pregnant again and again bringing forth a child to bring forth dragons. It won't play out that way, but Dany will believe it must, that she she must bring forth a child to sacrifice to bring forth a dragon to save the world, which will see her attempt to get pregnant by dragon blooded men culminating in a pregnancy by Jon.

The AA story foreshadows her attempted pregnancies which will fail (miscarriages). Water for Aurane Waters (possibly Euron but not likely), Lion for Tyrion (who will ride Viserion so she'll believe has Targ blood), and finally Nissa Nissa fully obscures Jon because a Jon and Dany hook up is rather obvious and any real reference would be immediately puzzled out.

There's many a foreshadowing for all parts to this but with specific regard to pregnant Dany being moon the description of the moon above Valyria in a Dance Tyrion chapter is most telling.

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Only the brightest stars were visible, all to the west. A dull red glow lit the sky to the northeast, the color of a blood bruise. Tyrion had never seen a bigger moon. Monstrous, swollen, it looked as if it had swallowed the sun and woken with a fever. Its twin, floating on the sea beyond the ship, shimmered red with every wave. "What hour is this?" he asked Moqorro. "That cannot be sunrise unless the east has moved. Why is the sky red?"

Note the language used to describing the moon being akin to a pregnant woman (swollen, fever, the waves likely referring to contractions) and having swallowed the sun aligning with the moon having paired with the sun from Doreah's telling, which represents conception. Note also the nod with MMD's words regarding when Drogo will be as he was, when the sun will rise and set in the wrong directions. Monster is a constant in the foreshadowing, dragons are described as monsters many a time including by Dany, and that she is the mother of monsters. The bright stars (as Drogo is described because he was one) to the west are references to the position of the men to whom she will conceive and where she will conceive by them, all in Westeros. It's relevant to Tyrion and so pops up in his chapter because he will be one of the stars, one man by which Dany will conceive.

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On 4/11/2024 at 8:46 PM, Sydney Mae said:

"Once there were two moons in the sky, but one wandered too close to the sun and cracked from the heat.  A thousand thousand dragons poured forth, and drank the fire of the sun.  That is why dragons breathe flame.  One day the other moon will kiss the sun too, and then it will crack and the dragons will return."

Doreah was telling Daenerys where Dragons came from. 

Irri said, "You are foolish strawhead slave.  Moon is no egg.  Moon is god, woman wife of sun.  It is known."

Doreah is a beautiful blonde Lysene.  Irri is a Dothraki girl, one of the handmaidens serving Daenerys.

George Martin took great pains to set up the gender flexibility of Dragons.  High Valyrian is also a gender neutral language.  A gender reversal for the Sun from the story to the present day happened.  Daenerys is the Sun.  To quote Tyrion, she is "Aegon the Conqueror with teats."  The Prince(ss) That Was Promised and Azor Ahai.  The Moon is Khal Drogo. 

The second Moon can apply to Quentyn Martell.  The suitor who got too close to the Sun and got burned for trying to steal the Dragons.  He released Rhaegal and Viserion from a stone prison. 

This is the myth of the creation of Dragons.  It makes for a lovely story.  We know the dragons did not really come from the moon.  The story is a historical account of what happened long ago.  Khal Drogo and Daenerys in their previous lives hatched dragon eggs.  They were reincarnated and are always fated to marry.  One dies and Dragons are born. 

The tale is strongly connected to the prophecy of Azor Ahai and waking the dragons from stones. 

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One of the moons impacted on the surface of the sun and caused enough debris to block the sunlight for years.  Mother Nature has a self-correcting mechanism.  Darkness and the resulting winter gave the Others greater range to attack.  Direwolves and crows fed on the dead.  The self-correcting mechanism created dragons to bring the world back in balance.

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It's the story of Azor Ahai told another way.  The Dothraki spun the story according to what they know about in order to make it make sense in their reality.  They know horses, grass, and khalasars.  So this great leader will mount the stallion and bind the khalasars together to follow her.  It is the same event just seen from the eyes of different people and they composed tales and legends for their own people.  

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Well, in a world where most of the people don't read nor write, stories are one way to convey information from one generation to the one following.  The story must have been told a thousand or more times around campfires and other gatherings.  The one doing the telling would add his or her own touches to make the story more interesting.  It goes without saying it's easier to keep an audience if the story is catchy.

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On 4/17/2024 at 4:27 AM, Pontius Pilate said:

One of the moons impacted on the surface of the sun and caused enough debris to block the sunlight for years.  Mother Nature has a self-correcting mechanism. 

That's not how it works, astrophysically speaking. Debris could hit the Earth/Planetos and cause volcanic activity that leads to volcanic ash blocking out sunlight for years.

I'm quite persuaded by David Lightbringers hypothesis that an asteroid hit the moon or maybe even shattered a second moon (far less likely in my opinion), causing debris to hit the planet leading to all sorts of devastation such as the Breaking of the Arms, the fall of Essosian kingdoms and fragments of the asteroid in the form of oily black stone falling here and there. This led to the rise of the Bloodstone Emperor's reign.

I do agree that over thousands of years of oral tradition timelines and details have become hopelessly muddled, and of course each local pre-scientific society centred the myth on themselves and made assumptions such as meteorites hurtling towards the planet were 'dragons' and something something sun, since dragons breathe fire and it sort of made sense. A kind of analogy is the global spread of universal flood myths from distant prehistoric times.

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