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This morning we received an email from a journalist who is based in San Francisco, who had gone with his wife to Georgia "for the wine and food."  The apartment they rented for a few weeks is located right in the middle of where the protests are going on.

He says he has never been in any situation with that many protesters and that many police.  It's all very very very loud and terrifying.  They are fairly stuck, at least for now.  They wish they were home.

 

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It's really interesting to see the news out of Spain since the pro-independence Catalunya hard right party lost to the socialsists -- not the majority for the first time since 2012.   Independence no longer a priority for Catalans.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2024/0513/Catalonia-separatists-election-loss-Spain

These 'pro-independence' ilks are quite quite fascist.

It's equally interesting that Spain is among the nations pushing for a Palestinian state.  Considering Spain's history with Arabs/Moors and Jews, particularly so.  Causes some eye blinking it has among many, who are confused as to how to phrase condemnation for this turn of events.  Blinken, among them.

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2024-05-10/spain-and-us-acknowledge-their-differences-over-recognition-of-palestinian-state.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/13/palestine-statehood-recognize-spain-united-nations/

The idea that the only viable solution to this war is a Palestinian state was inevitable presumably since Israel refused to come up with any day-after planning.  Though it is suspected among many that the day-after plan is all Palestinians gone and Gaza and West Bank be Israel as well.  So, then :dunno:  .  However, since eradicting Hamas seems impossible :dunno: .

 

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1 hour ago, Zorral said:

The idea that the only viable solution to this war is a Palestinian state was inevitable presumably since Israel refused to come up with any day-after planning.  Though it is suspected among many that the day-after plan is all Palestinians gone and Gaza and West Bank be Israel as well. 

Yes. I just watched a debate of sorts between Norman Finkelstein and Yishai Fleisher on Piers Morgan and Fleisher’s rhetoric made Piers fucking Morgan say, “you’ sound genocidal”. Oh and Mr. Fleisher also managed to squeeze a little pro Trump propaganda in there. I think he maybe works with Gvir? Not sure, but wow, 100% insanity.

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10 hours ago, Zorral said:

This morning we received an email from a journalist who is based in San Francisco, who had gone with his wife to Georgia "for the wine and food."  The apartment they rented for a few weeks is located right in the middle of where the protests are going on.

He says he has never been in any situation with that many protesters and that many police.  It's all very very very loud and terrifying.  They are fairly stuck, at least for now.  They wish they were home.

 

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What's the use of a presidential veto if the parliament can cast an additional vote to overrule.

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7 hours ago, Zorral said:

It's equally interesting that Spain is among the nations pushing for a Palestinian state.  Considering Spain's history with Arabs/Moors and Jews, particularly so. 

There may have been some developments in the intervening 500 years.

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46 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

It's all going a bit Franz Ferdinand.

Chicken little!  Just one major Slovak gets injured…

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35 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Isn’t he the one sympathetic to Putin?  

He is, even if sympathetic is maybe too strong a word. Not sure if the shooting was connected to this though. The attacker, according to our media, is a 70 year old Sovakian citizen. 

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14 minutes ago, 3CityApache said:

He is, even if sympathetic is maybe too strong a word. Not sure if the shooting was connected to this though. The attacker, according to our media, is a 70 year old Sovakian citizen. 

Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico shot and gravely injured
Fico was transported to a hospital by helicopter. His office said the “next few hours” would be decisive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/15/robert-fico-shot-slovakia/

"Slovakia’s outgoing president, Zuzana Caputova, said police detained the presumed attacker."

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.... Fico has served multiple stints as Slovakia’s prime minister, most recently returning to power after winning an election in the fall.

He was forced out in 2018 amid public outrage over the killing of a journalist who had been investigating ties between his associates and the Italian mafia. But he staged a comeback by capitalizing on growing skepticism about the war in Ukraine and frustration with a cost-of-living crisis.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Darzin said:

There may have been some developments in the intervening 500 years.

You mean ... like ... the Spanish Empire in the New World?  Inquisition? Conflict with France and Britain as to which of them could claim Morocco as a colony? Goya? The International Brigades? Picasso?  Franco? Flamenco? Salvador Dali? Penelope Cruz? International Women's Day? 

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5 hours ago, 3CityApache said:

He is, even if sympathetic is maybe too strong a word. Not sure if the shooting was connected to this though. The attacker, according to our media, is a 70 year old Sovakian citizen. 

Right.  Fico's commitment to democratic norms was certainly very questionable but this event doesn't help, whatever the motive.

As for Spain's relations with the Middle East.  More recent history plays a major role in that.

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Spain turned to Arab countries during the Franco dictatorship which ran from 1939 to 1975 in order to circumvent its isolation in the West.

It was not until 1986, however, that the nation established official relations with Israel.

The relatively late date was a consequence of tensions born from the Hebrew State's opposition to Spain's entry into the UN at the end of the Second World War, due to its proximity to Nazi Germany.

 

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/23/why-is-spain-one-of-the-few-eu-voices-supporting-palestine

Spain only joined the EU in 1986 also.

17 hours ago, TheLastWolf said:

What's the use of a presidential veto if the parliament can cast an additional vote to overrule.

Most countries do have a presidential override, if a veto exists.  It normally requires a super majority.  But yes, things do seem to be going well for Russia right now.

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"The audience, consisting of tens of thousands of settlers, cheers on Ben Gvir constantly, chanting again and again: "HU-HA here he comes - the next prime minister!"

 

 

If anything can go wrong (get worse), it will?

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The monstrously petty vengeance of the immoral, the weak, and the jealous. A malaise of our own making, but a plague nonetheless.

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The Unpunished: How Extremists Took Over Israel

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html
 

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The villagers made appeal after appeal to the Israeli police and to the ever-present Israeli military, but their calls for protection went largely unheeded, and the attacks continued with no consequences. So one day the villagers packed what they could, loaded their families into trucks and disappeared.

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Who bulldozed the village after that is a matter of dispute. The Israeli Army says it was the settlers; a senior Israeli police officer says it was the army.


Ambiguity is a versatile device skillfully used by Israeli institutions when colonist doctrine requires violence and illegal activity. But in its use, these cowards are gaslighting themselves and onlookers into believing that they aren't carrying out ethnic cleansing. The settlements that grow around this place would nevertheless be within defensive jurisdiction of the IDF.

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Either way, soon after the villagers left, little remained of Khirbet Zanuta besides the ruins of a clinic and an elementary school. One wall of the clinic, leaning sideways, bore a sign saying that it had been funded by an agency of the European Union providing “humanitarian support for Palestinians at risk of forcible transfer in the West Bank.” Near the school, someone had planted the flag of Israel as another kind of announcement: This is Jewish land now.


Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is a slow dance within the lines of legality and the field of vision of western support, but crisis quickens it. It's a matter of doing what they can get away with in a given circumstance and moment.

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Israel has gone through major changes. The old guard is reaching its demographic end point. Ashkenazis, who are westernized and liberal, are giving way to middle eastern Mizrahi who believe in a Greater Israel and would like to return to Talmudic law and the building of the Third Temple, which means destroying the Al-Asqa Mosque. It is something the rest of the world is going to have to get used to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, kissdbyfire said:

"The audience, consisting of tens of thousands of settlers, cheers on Ben Gvir constantly, chanting again and again: "HU-HA here he comes - the next prime minister!"

 

 

If anything can go wrong (get worse), it will?

That sounds like Serbian rhetoric during the Bosnian and Kosovo wars.

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