Antonius Pius Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Shryke' post='1453027' date='Jul 23 2008, 21.11']I think knowing alot about the First Crusade will only damage your ability to enjoy the series honestly.[/quote] It didn't really damage my enjoyment of the series, but I definitely knew what was coming. So in that respect the surprise was lessened somewhat. Still, I thought it was a great read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Yeah, I think it was quite a good read, but ... I can't pin down why. The battles were not truly exciting, but well-written certainly. The characters were mostly fine, but not especially remarkable. Kellhus I could, really, give two figs about -- he remains a sentient MacGuffin, little more. I suppose the main thing is not so much Kellhus, but his impact on others, especially the aforementioned Akka and Esmenet. He's a plot device more than anything right now. Which I suppose is fine, but it's hard to fawn over a plot device, especially a presently-unstoppable plot device who can do impossible things without batting an eyelash. Hmm, will have to ruminate a bit more on why I'm enjoying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Mamba of Dorne Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I just read all three PoN books to read about Khal Drogo, sorry I meant Cnaiur Urs Skiotha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Ran' post='1453101' date='Jul 23 2008, 15.57']Yeah, I think it was quite a good read, but ... I can't pin down why. The battles were not truly exciting, but well-written certainly. The characters were mostly fine, but not especially remarkable. Kellhus I could, really, give two figs about -- he remains a sentient MacGuffin, little more. I suppose the main thing is not so much Kellhus, but his impact on others, especially the aforementioned Akka and Esmenet. He's a plot device more than anything right now. Which I suppose is fine, but it's hard to fawn over a plot device, especially a presently-unstoppable plot device who can do impossible things without batting an eyelash. Hmm, will have to ruminate a bit more on why I'm enjoying it[/quote] Kellhus is far more then a plot device. It's just, alot of the structure of the book depends on us not knowing what exactly he's up to. I mean, ask yourself, what does Kellhus WANT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Shryke' post='1453124' date='Jul 23 2008, 16.10']Kellhus is far more then a plot device. It's just, alot of the structure of the book depends on us not knowing what exactly he's up to. I mean, ask yourself, what does Kellhus WANT?[/quote] No, he really isn't, as Ran says he is just a MacGuffin. I'd say he's slightly more interesting from a perspective of 'what would a Robot be like in a fantasy setting' but nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Slurktan' post='1453236' date='Jul 23 2008, 15.57']No, he really isn't, as Ran says he is just a MacGuffin. I'd say he's slightly more interesting from a perspective of 'what would a Robot be like in a fantasy setting' but nothing more than that.[/quote] :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I think it is in TTT, where Kellhus comes more into his own as a character who harbors his own doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Dylanfanatic' post='1453250' date='Jul 23 2008, 16.05']I think it is in TTT, where Kellhus comes more into his own as a character who harbors his own doubts.[/quote] Well, it's in TTT that we get a really good look inside his head for the first time since like the start of TWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 True, but I didn't want to say much about it, since Ran hasn't yet had the chance to read those scenes...and speaking of one of them, did you notice the parallel with NP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Haven't picked up Neuropath yet. I'm still on that Wolfe kick you sent me on. Working my way through book 3 of Long Sun right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Sweet! Well, when you get to NP, you'll recognize one scene from TTT, just in a much more graphic form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Ha! :P I suspect he had a free day and devoted himself to reading the book; many do that, ya know :P As for Long Sun, don't expect it to be anything like New Sun in style or plot. Very, very different story, one that is more subtle in some aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm on vacation since last week, with relatively limited computer time ... so yeah, I've got a bunch of free days. ;) I can read a book a day if I'm not stuck doing a bunch of other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulain Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 To continue off-topic, how is the Short Sun trilogy ? Is it worth a read? I really think these books could do with a reprint or omnibus release, since I can't find a copy of [i]Return to the Whorl[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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