mor2 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 so according to this what came first Gregor Clegane battle at the Ruby Ford or Gregor Clegane retake of Harrenhal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Also, what are Petyr Baelish's movements? He is away from Kings Landing from A Storm of Swords chapter 19, we see Jeyne in chapter 44 of a Storm of Swords.So I am curious as to how Jeyne was trained into becoming Arya Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDanny Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Any hint as to when Tommen's birthday is?Sorry, I missed this post and am so late in responding. Tommen was born in 291 and his name day falls in the early part of the year. For instance, we know his seventh name day falls after Joffrey's twelfth in 298 and takes place before the news of Jon Arryn's death and Robert's impending arrival in Winterfell reaches Ned and Catelyn as they discuss Tommen's age before Winterfell's heart tree. Tommen's name day therefore falls in the year before his sister's, before Bran's, before Robb's and before Jon's. We don't know if it falls before Arya's. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I congradulate everyone here on the great work. People worked really hard on all this its obvious.However, why do we assume months are 30 days long and years have 12 months and 365 days?Could it be that Westeros is on a 28 day month, with 13 months to a year and 364 days to a year assuming no leap days etc? It seems like a more natural calander to follow for that type of society.does this model change anything for people?All the work you did was amazing. But I agree with dragginstoned. Also, I don't think your "beginning of the year" date is correct. Most likely, the year would begin on the winter solstice *or* the date when Aegon landed. I think it more likely that the year would begin when Aegon landed, rather than the solstice. So whenever Aegon landed...that would be the first month. It might not matter, since I don't think we know what season Aegon landed and your time line seems to rely on events in relation to each other.So interesting that Martin doesn't really make any reference to months or how many days are in a week. Because he doesn't, I would go with the default roughly 29/30 days in a month, 7 days in a week. Just a random guess, I would think the Westerosi calendar would be more like the Hebrew calendar than the Gregorian. From wikipedia: "Similarly, in the Hebrew calendar (a lunisolar calendar), a 13th lunar month is added seven times every 19 years to the twelve lunar months in its common years to keep its calendar year from drifting through the seasons too rapidly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's a convention so the timeline is more readable. Besides, we know the months follow the moon, and from affc we know the moon cycle is 30 days. Add to that that GRRM was actually asked and said the year was the same as our, so, whatever.I don't really care, but I was not about to invent a new calendar with fancy cycles and names for no reason. The events are timed against one another anyway, and all synced on what we know to be the first day of year 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Schreiber Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I have points about two of the discrepancies listed on the first page:In AGOT, Tyrion comes back from the wall way too fast, and Catelyn moves up from KL way too slow, yet it is necessary for them to meet in in the crossroad innI also think Catelyn was moving around way too quick in AGoT. Of course she took a ship down there, but on the way back, there is no explanation. Since that was what I took to be the speed of travel in Westeros, for a long time subsequently I thought people were just moving way too slow, and it threw off my expactations.Sam, due to the speed of ships, should arrive in Oldtown very late in year 300, yet by then, the captain of the huntress tells him that Cersei is still in command and the Redwyne fleet is still bogged down somewhere. I guess it could fit if Cersei were to somehow become free and reassign the fleet elsewhere, but it's a bit far fetched. This could be due to the captain just not having the most up to date information, which I am sure you considered, so why is that not possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 This could be due to the captain just not having the most up to date information, which I am sure you considered, so why is that not possible?Because The Huntress is an Oldtown ship, mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Schreiber Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 28/10/298 Ned 9 Jaime ambushes Ned29/10/298 Robb prepares war after Cat's messageHow do you know it's the very next day. Seems like it'd take a raven more than a day to travel like 75% of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 28/10/298 Ned 9 Jaime ambushes Ned29/10/298 Robb prepares war after Cat's messageHow do you know it's the very next day. Seems like it'd take a raven more than a day to travel like 75% of Westeros.Because the two events are unrelated. Cat is sending a message from the Eyrie before Ned is attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi using Errant Bards timeline and http://asoiaf.wester...-affc-and-adwd/I have started this. I am now certain that the first Davos chapter occurs after Lysa Tully's death (Lord Borrell mentions that Lysa was murdered by her singer) and possibly after the first Sansa chapter of AFFC (since that's when Lord Royce learnt that Lysa had been murdered by her singer).The single Jaime chapter of ADWD had to have occured half a year after the Red Wedding.It can't take all that long for Jaime to get from Riverrun (his final AFFC chapter) to Raventree hall.Also in AFFC chapter 18: Cersei 4. Mentions the Lord’s Declarant of the Vale, so this chapter must occur after Sansa' first chapter in AFFC (05/04/300). Or as late as Sansa's 2nd chapter in AFFC. 17/04/300 AFFC. Also mentions that Ramsay Bolton not yet at Moat Cailin, so it occurs before the 2nd Reek chapter of ADWD). Cersei hears about Davos being captured by Wyman Manderly. So we must conclude that Davos chapter 3 in ADWD happens before Cersei's 4th chapter in AFFC/AFFC chapter 18... and definitly after Sansa's first chapter of AFFC. A Dance with Dragons Possible date (using Errant Bard’s timeline) AFFC 02: The Prophet 05/12/299 ADWD 01: Prologue Occurs after Stannis victory and arrival at wall. Mother mole travels east AFFC 01: Prologue 22/12/299 AFFC 12: The Kraken's Daughter 23/12/299 ADWD 03: Daenerys 1 AFFC 19: The Iron Captain Has left Moat Cailin 27/12/299 AFFC 20: The Drowned Man Ralf Kenning supports Victarion so Ironborn aren’t starving yet 28/12/299 ADWD 04: Jon 1 Between 24/03/300 ASOS Jon 12 elected LC- 08/04/300 in which Sam is sent away with Gilly AFFC 04: Cersei 1 13/01/300 AFFC 08: Cersei 2 13/01/300 AFFC 09: Jaime 1 13/01/300 ADWD 05: Bran 1 Sometime after: 29/12/299 ASOS Bran 3 Queenscrown. Synchro with Jon ASOS Jon 5. AFFC 03: The Captain Of Guards 21/01/300 AFFC 05: Brienne 1 24/01/300 ADWD 13: Reek 1 Sometime after 28/12/299 as the Ironborn at Moat Cailin are starving. AFFC 10: Brienne 2 05/02/300 AFFC 14: The Soiled Knight 06/02/300 ADWD 10: Davos 1 must occur after 30/03/300 (ASOS Sansa 7) as Lord Borrel mentions Lysa’s death and that she was murdered by singer so perhaps even after 05/04/300 AFFC Sansa 1 AFFC 22: The Queenmaker 07/02/300 AFFC 15: Brienne 3 23/02/300 ADWD 16: Davos 2 Arrives at White Harbour AFFC 13: Cersei 3 25/02/300 ADWD 20: Davos 3 Before 08/03/300 as Cersei finds out about his capture then. AFFC 17: Jaime 2 27/02/300 The books converge when Cersei finds out Davos has been captured and Ramsay Bolton moves to capture Moat Cailin The books converge when Cersei finds out Davos has been captured and Ramsay Bolton moves to capture Moat Cailin A Feast for Crows Timeline of AFFC according to Errant Bard A Dance with Dragons Possible date (using Errant Bard’s timeline) AFFC 18: Cersei 4 (mentions Lord’s Declarant, so it must occur after 05/04/300 AFFC Sansa 1. Probably before 17/04/300 AFFC Sansa 2 (Alayne 1). Ramsay Bolton not yet at Moat Cailin. Hears about Davos being captured 08/03/300 ADWD 02: Tyrion 1 AFFC 07: Arya 1 09/03/300 ADWD 21: Reek 2 A little while after 08/03/300 since Ramsay had not yet hit Moat Cailin in Cersei 4 AFFC 21: Brienne 4 13/03/300 ADWD 06: Tyrion 2 AFFC 25: Cersei 5 Cersei learns that Davos has been beheaded 15/03/300 ADWD 09: Tyrion 3 AFFC 41: The Princess In The Tower 21/03/300 ADWD 07: The Merchant's Man AFFC 29: Cersei 6 28/03/300 ADWD 12: Daenerys 2 AFFC 30: The Reaver 31/03/300 ADWD 14: Bran 2 AFFC 28: Jaime 3. Wylis released when Jaime returned to Harrenhal 01/04/300 Wylis to be escorted by Red Ronnet Connington to Maidenpool and then put on a boat to White Harbour. AFFC 33: Cersei 7 ADWD 15: Tyrion 4 AFFC 26: Brienne 5 04/04/300 AFFC 11: Sansa 1 Royce learns that Lysa murdered by Singer 05/04/300 ADWD 17: Daenerys 3 AFFC 31: Jaime 4 07/04/300 ADWD 19: Tyrion 5 AFFC 32: Brienne 6 08/04/300 The books converge when Jon sends Sam away from Castle Black A Feast for Crows Timeline of AFFC according to Errant Bard A Dance with Dragons Possible date (using Errant Bard’s timeline) AFFC 06: Samwell 1 08/04/300 ADWD 08: Jon 2 08/04/300 AFFC 38: Brienne 7 11/04/300 ADWD 11: Jon 3 Has heard of Tywin’s death ADWD 18: Jon 4 Treats with Stannis, Sends Stannis out to Deepwood Motte AFFC 34: Jaime 5 15/04/300 ADWD 22: Jon 5 Recruits wildlings AFFC 39: Jaime 6 15/04/300 ADWD 23: Tyrion 6 AFFC 16: Samwell 2 16/04/300 ADWD 24: Daenerys 4 AFFC 43: Brienne 8 17/04/300 ADWD 25: The Lost Lord Occurs on the same day as Tyrion 6 AFFC 24: Alayne 1 Lords Declarant give . Petyr 1 year to fix Vale. Petyr mentions Cersei’s self-destructive behaviour 17/04/300 ADWD 26: The Windblown AFFC 37: Cersei 8 19/04/300 ADWD 27: The Wayward Bride Learns that Moat Cailin has fallen to Boltons. Stannis takes Deepwood Motte ADWD 28: Tyrion 7 AFFC 40: Cersei 9 23/04/300 ADWD 29: Jon 6 Bulwer sent out, hears about ‘Arya”. AFFC 44: Cersei 10 Cersei thrown in jail 25/04/300 ADWD 30: Davos 4 Theon known to be alive. Is Wylis still a hostage? AFFC 42: Alayne 2. Petyr plans Sansa’s betrothal. 27/04/300 ADWD 31: Daenerys 5 AFFC 45: Jaime 7 Departs to end siege of Raventree Hall. Burns Cersei’s letter 28/04/300 ADWD 32: Melisandre Jack Bulwer dead. Mance sent out to rescue Arya. ADWD 33: Reek 3 Search for missing Freys, Wyman Manderly has left White Harbour AFFC 23: Arya 2 08/05/300 ADWD 34: Tyrion 8 AFFC 27: Samwell 3 28/06/300 ADWD 35: Bran 3 AFFC 36: Samwell 4 24/08/300 ADWD 36: Jon 7 New recruits make vows AFFC 46: Samwell 5 23/09/300 ADWD 37: Daenerys 6 AFFC 35: Cat Of The Canals ADWD 38: The Prince of Winterfell “Bael”arrives at Winterfell. Ramsay marries Jeyne/’Arya” The books converge when ADWD chapters all begin continuing storylines which ended in AFFC A Feast for Crows A Dance with Dragons Possible date ADWD 39: The Watcher ADWD 40: Jon 8 Sends Val out ADWD 41: Tyrion 9 ADWD 42: The Turncloak ADWD 43: The King's Prize 30 days since she left Deepwood Motte. Arrive at village ADWD 44: Daenerys 7 ADWD 45: Jon 9 Selyse arrives at Castle Black. Tycho Nahaaris mentions Lannister failure to pay debts. Alys Karstark arrives, warns of Karstark uncle’s betrayal ADWD 46: The Blind Girl ADWD 47: A Ghost In Winterfell Final scene within a day of chapter 52. ADWD 48: Tyrion 10 ADWD 62: The Griffin Reborn ADWD 49: Jaime Roslin’s child not born. Learns that the siege of Raventree Hall has gone on for half a year. It must have begun by ASOS 72: Jaime 9 12/01/300. Since that’s when Lord Bracken was pardoned. ADWD 50: Jon 10 Alys marries Sigorn. Tormund and Val return ADWD 51: Daenerys 8 ADWD 52: Theon Perhaps 3 days before chapter 63/last Asha chapter ADWD 53: Daenerys 9 ADWD 54: Jon 11 Flints and Norrey’s arrive ADWD 55: Cersei 1 Rumours of Jon Connington ADWD 56: The Queensguard ADWD 57: The Iron Suitor ADWD 58: Tyrion 11 ADWD 59: Jon 12 Wildling hostages, Cotter Pyke stranded at Hardhome ADWD 60: The Discarded Knight ADWD 61: The Spurned Suitor ADWD 63: The Sacrifice Stranded for 19 days at village. Approximately 3 days since chapter 52 ADWD 64: Victarion ADWD 65: The Ugly Little Girl ADWD 66: Cersei 2 ADWD 67: Tyrion 12 ADWD 69: The Dragontamer ADWD 68: The Kingbreaker ADWD 70: Jon 13 Receives Pink letter ADWD 71: The Queen's Hand ADWD 72: Daenerys 10 ADWD 73: Epilogue http://asoiaf.wester...-affc-and-adwd/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hey I was just wondering about the Lollys query. The timeline is confusing as Lollys was raped when Myrcella went to Dorne (19th September) according to the timeline. So couldn't feasibley have had her baby before the middle of May the following year at the very earliest. In fact a nine month gestation would put the birth into the middle of June 300.Doesn't that mean that Cersei being thrown in Jail etc, happens a lot later, like July or August? And all the subsequent events being later?And then Jaime would have gone missing in July / August or so and the Epilogue is nearer the end to mid September? Which would fit with the Appendix which says Roslin "is great with child" which I took as just about to give birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I think Cersei being thrown in gaol must have happened a lot later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 She does joke with Jaime and Taena about Lollys' baby. So Jaime couldn't have even left to go to Harrenhal, Darry and then Riverrun until the beginning of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreamer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 There are other inconsistencies as well - for example Lady Lisa's dead apeared on 30/03/300 according to the chart and Brienne hears about that on 23/02/300 - :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lepus Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 You know, maybe GRRM created the weird seasons phenomenon so he wouldn't have to worry so much about the consistency of the pass of time, and here we are, dissecting his work and trying to make a timeline that makes sense... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear Me Type! Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I love you EB... No homo guy love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 A fantastic OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Martin Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 A question came up in another thread.When was the sack of Winterfell by Ramsay relative to Battle of Blackwater? This timeline has them happening on the same day. The debate is essentially whether Roose Bolton knew the results of Blackwater in time to order Ramsay to sack Winterfell. In ACOK, we get Sansa's account of the knightings after the battle, then Arya in Harrenhal w/ Roose speaking w/ Freys about Robb's marraige. And then we get the Theon chapter re: the sack. So I would think that was several days later.Is there any reason the sack of Winterfell couldn't be a week after Blackwater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not really, Martin is not good with synchronizing timelines, but in this case, after recalculating the stuff, the different events leading to the Blackwater and the burning of Winterfell, plus travel speed make it so the burning of Winterfell must happen before the Blackwater if he wants to be consistent... which he could not want that much.The main thing is that Bran's group will not actually survive that long in the crypts, and considering he escaped at the very max on 21/09/299, it's already 16 days in there with just some hastily stolen food and water... I think it's already pushing credibility. Note Tyrion gets news of Bran's demise well before the Blackwater, and that birds/messengers don't actually teleport, so for Roose to have ordered the burning of Winterfell, he would have needed to respond right when he got the news, and even then when he got the news was barely enough for the bird to come back to the dreadfort, nevermind marshalling men and marshing them to WinterfellI have this, the timing is especially tight at this point of time:15/09/0299-21/09/0299 ACOK THEON 4 - Bran escapes - time enough for Stygg to reach deepwood motte - Bran and Rickon's death 16/09/0299-05/10/0299 ACOK JON 7 - talks to Bran - reaches milkwater 18/09/0299-01/10/0299 ACOK TYRION 12 - News of Bran's death 22/09/0299-25/09/0299 AGOT ---- ---- Robb is 16 23/09/0299-24/09/0299 ACOK CATELYN 6 . News Penrose dies. Robb marching toward Crag. Roose marching on Harrenhal 23/09/0299-15/10/0299 ACOK ARYA 9 - Weasel soup - day before Roose taking the castle 26/09/0299-28/09/0299 AGOT ---- ---- Battle of the Red Fork. 28/09/0299-29/09/0299 ACOK CATELYN 6 B. News Red Fork 29/09/0299-10/10/0299 ACOK SANSA 5 - Sails on Blackwater - battle of Blackwater 29/09/0299-10/10/0299 ACOK DAVOS 3 - Battle of Blackwater 29/09/0299-10/10/0299 ACOK TYRION 13 - Battle of Blackwater 29/09/0299-10/10/0299 ACOK SANSA 6 - Battle of Blackwater 29/09/0299-10/10/0299 ACOK TYRION 14 - Battle of Blackwater 30/09/0299-11/10/0299 ACOK SANSA 8 - day after Blackwater - rumors Renly's ghost 01/10/0299-21/10/0299 ACOK SANSA 9 - Tywin savior of the city - wedding in 30 days - gets hairnet 02/10/0299-03/10/0299 ACOK THEON 5 - Asha passing by - deaths - dream of Robb dead 06/10/0299-05/11/0299 ACOK TYRION 15 - wakes up 06/10/0299-25/10/0299 ACOK JON 8 - Kills Qhorin 06/10/0299-25/10/0299 ASOS DAVOS 1 - On a rock at sea 07/10/0299-08/10/0299 ACOK CATELYN 7 - News of Bran. News Robb taking the Crag. Edmure soon comes back. Freeing Jaime 07/10/0299-08/10/0299 ACOK THEON 6 - WF burned to the ground 07/10/0299-08/10/0299 ACOK BRAN 7 - I'm not dead either 07/10/0299-26/10/0299 ASOS SANSA 1 - Margaery in KL - wedding soon 08/10/0299-09/10/0299 ASOS JAIME 1 - going downriver 08/10/0299-12/11/0299 ASOS DAVOS 2 - Arrives on Dragonstone 10/10/0299-11/10/0299 ASOS CATELYN 1 - Edmure comes back - news of Robb taking a wound 10/10/0299-11/10/0299 ASOS CATELYN 2 - Robb comes back, news of Rodrick, Freys leaving 10/10/0299-20/11/0299 ASOS CATELYN 3 - Kastark kills hostages - no news from anywhere 13/10/0299-24/11/0299 ASOS JON 1 - Meets Mance 14/10/0299-15/10/0299 ACOK ARYA 10 - Leaving Harrenhal - everything known: blackwater, Robb+Jeyne, Bran deadI want to reiterate that a lot is possible, as Martin doesn't really care about tightness of timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotheknifefight Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Year 298February10/02/298 Joffrey's name day24/02/298 Jon Arryn DiesMarch02/03/298 Prologue Waymar Royce dies22/03/298 Bran 1 Gared caught22/03/298 Cat 1 message from KLApril01/04/298 Arya turns 910/04/298 Vyserys humiliated, Dany becomes pregnantMay20/05/298 Ned 1 Robert arrives in WinterFell20/05/298 Jon 1 Welcoming feast25/05/298 Dany 3 Dany's Birthday (14) â€" other side of Dothraki sea25/05/298 Arya 1 Crooked stiches26/05/298 Cat 2 Decision to go South, Jon to NWJune09/06/298 Dany 4 Vyserys mounted again â€" arrives in Vaes Dothrak09/06/298 Bran 2 Things I do for love14/06/298 Tyrion 1 Slaps Joffrey, wolves howling22/06/298 Jon 2 Ned leaving WinterFell, « should have been you »30/06/298 Cat 3 Assassin to kill BranJuly02/07/298 Ned 2 News of Dany's wedding, Barrowlands04/07/298 Cat 3 Cat leaving Winterfell10/07/298 Tyrion 2 camp, not yet at the wall21/07/298 Benjen leaving23/07/298 Sam is 15 and kicked out of Horn HillAugust15/08/298 Sansa 1 Ruby ford, Nymeria attacks Joff19/08/298 Ned 3 Darry â€" Lady killed24/08/298 Jon's birthday28/08/298 Cat 4 Arrives in KLSeptember02/09/298 Ned 4 Arrives in KL, talks to Cat02/09/298 Bran 3 Waking up07/09/298 Jon 3 News from Branis the julian calendar even followed in game of thrones? (chances are its not)the month and day thing messes with my head ... anyway.i like that you left 20 days between the prologue and the death of gared. however, gared was an eight days hard ride to the wall, which he must have crossed (somehow) and then it would have been another few weeks to get down around winterfell. he never checked in at castle black on his way south, as benjen knows nothing of what happened to royce. this must mean he went a different way, which would have taken much longer. i would say it could have been quite a bit more than a month from prologue to gared being caught.xxxxxxxxxxxxaccording to your timeline, it took robert about a month and a half to reach winterfell, and over two months to get back to kings landing. also, the raven bringing the news of robert's impending arrival seems to have beaten robert by less than two weeks (what a slow bird, or a fast caravan!). It seems to me Robert would be a bit slow in making it to Winterfell, stopping at many castles along the way to feast and hunt. The way back was probably much swifter, especially given the tension between the families after the Green Fork. I'm guessing the ride to Kings Landing was around two months, probably slightly more, considering they must have been at least three almost four weeks by the time they reached the Green Fork on the way back.in chapter 7, catelyn II, ned says it will be a fortnight until they go south.but two chapters later, bran says the king & co. went hunting for the feast that night, because they were to go south the next day.this should imply that there was about two weeks between the two chapters.until you get to the next chapter, tyrion I, where tyrion goes to breakfast four days after bran has fallen.moreover, one chapter later - jon II - it is the morning they leave for the wall (the same day ned leaves to go south) and it has been about two weeks since bran's fall.xxxxxxxxxxxxwith these details in mind, if you set robert's arrival at winterfell at 1, the dates would look like:EDDARD I : Day 1 King arrives with his caravan.JON I : Day 1 (night) Feast for the King's arrivalCATELYN II : Day 5 Cat convinces Ned to go south with Luwin's support, who reveals Jon's desire to take the black. (its been "a few days" since at least the day after JON 1 according to Maester Luwin, and two weeks before the king leaves according to Ned)ARYA I : Day 5-6 Arya's crooked stitches (this could have been happening concurrently to CATELYN II or after. The date is largely unimportant.)BRAN II : Day 7 - Bran's fall.(It is not the same day as ARYA I. If the king was truly to leave south the day after Bran's fall, then it would be about Day 19. This would mean ARYA I could have happened any time in between. HOWEVER - A few chapters ahead, in CATELYN III, they say the catspaw sent to kill Bran had been seen around the castle for the past "few weeks" since the king's arrival. Should Bran have fallen on day 19, by CATELYN III it would have been almost two months this man had been lurking about. So I am erring on the side of a shorter timeline, suggesting that it was only a week since the king's arrival before Bran fell. If you disagree, just add 14 days to the count from here out)TYRION I : Day 11 Tyrion slaps Joffrey before going to break his fast with his siblings.JON II : Day 20 Jon leaves to the Wall. ("almost a fortnight" has passed since BRAN II.)EDDARD II : Day 20 (same day) The king's caravan leaves to Kings Landing. Ned and Robert talk Dany's wedding.TYRION II : Day 23 (Three days to get to the Wolfswood)By 18 days into their journey they have just come out on the northern side,so the chapter ends at Day 38CATELYN III : Day 28 A fire is lit in the Winterfell library and a catspaw comes to Bran's room to try and kill him. Luckily Catelyn is there.This chapter takes place while Tyrion is in the Wolfswood.It has been eight days since Ned left when Bran is attacked.CATELYN III : Day 32 Four days later, Catelyn awakes and has a meeting. Decides to go to Kings Landing.Considering how land locked Winterfell is, I would doubt she would leave before first light of the next day. This means she left at least 34 days after Robert's caravan arrived and surely 13 days after they left.According to the OP timeline, Robert arrived May 20th and Catelyn leaves July 4th (45 Days). This loosely fits my timeline IF the king's return south was, in fact, delayed two weeks after Bran's fall.Mistakenly, the OP timeline lists Ned II as taking place only a couple days before Catelyn leaves, when it must have taken place at least 13 days prior.SANSA I : the OP timeline lists this chapter as occurring almost two months after they have left Winterfell. However, the chapter says they were 12 days in the Neck, and had arrived near at the Green Fork. The distance from Moat Cailin to where the Green Fork borders the Kings Road seems to be almost the same distance as Moat Cailin to Winterfell, perhaps even longer. If they were 12 days in the Neck (where the going must be slow!), they couldn't have been more than 12 days from Winterfell to Moat Cailin. I'm calling this chapter as Day 45 at the most.After this event, timelines sort of get fuzzy until they reach King's Landing.According to Bran's crow dream, by Day 45 Catelyn is on a ship in the Bite.Before King Robert's caravan can reach King's Landing, Jon has had a name day. He's now 15. By JON III, they have been at the Wall for about 25 days (Benjen left four days after they arrived at the Wall, and it has been three weeks since by the time we get to this chapter).In the OP timeline, it has been almost two months since they arrived at the Wall. If it took them 18 days to reach the north side of the Wolfswood, I'm willing to bet they arrived at the Wall sometime around when Ned kills Lady.So JON III : 25 days after reaching the Wall. About 14 days after Jon's name day If it took them another week from the Wolfswood to reach Castle Black, they would have arrived at or around day 45.Considering Bran's dream coincides with Lady's death, which I have above shown to be day 45, this fits Jon's storyline as well, since Bran sees Jon sleeping at Castle Black.This would mean JON III takes place at or about day 70.And that is what I've figured out of the first 45 days of the first book of the series.xxxxxxxxxxxxI think the raven would have brought news of Arryn's death about a month before Robert arrived, maybe even more. Thus Arryn would have died approximately three to four months prior to Robert's arrival in Winterfell.Fun thing to note on the reread : Lysa's note to Catelyn about Cersei killing Arryn was hidden in a spy glass and sealed with a BLOB of blue ink. Note that Lysa did not use her seal. I think Littlefinger sent this note to her, as he would have definitely had bits of Lysa's sealing wax and he is in a perfect position to have it sent with the King's caravan.This message is probably why Catelyn tells Littlefinger she suspects Cersei tried to have Bran murdered, but Littlefinger immediately leads her away from that conclusion (and rightly so). Instead he points her towards Tyrion.In AGOT, Tyrion comes back from the wall way too fast, and Catelyn moves up from KL way too slow, yet it is necessary for them to meet in in the crossroad innI haven't covered this much of the time line I've figured out so far, but I think its the opposite. Tyrion is too slow and Catelyn is too fast. Tyrion must have taken at least three weeks just to get to Winterfell from the wall, while Catelyn had only left Kings Landing for about two weeks by Catelyn V (when she captures Tyrion).This would imply Tyrion had left the wall almost two months before arriving at the Inn. 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