Ckram Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) On House Dayne/Appearence there is this (I bolded): "Despite their purple eyes, according to George R.R. Martin, the Daynes are not of Valyrian descent". I checked the reference (a chat log), and notice that Ran asked about Ashara's violet eyes and George answered based on that ("[...] As for the violet eyes . . .look, Elizabeth Taylor has violet eyes, and she's not of Valyrian descent [...]"). So, wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Dispite their violet eyes [...]"? The way it is allows us to conclude that purple eyes aren't indicative of Valyrian descent (which may or may not be the case, but do not seem to be what GRRM answered). Edited February 12, 2018 by Ckram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 From House Frey page: Osmund Frey, Benfrey's son. A newborn babe. Two year old isn't a newborn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 22 hours ago, The Grey Wolf said: You mean Viserys II. Viserys I didn't do jack shit. Also, if the extended Westerlands writeup GRRM posted a while back is any indication, little of the cut material deals with trade, law, diplomacy, etc. Personally, I'm more interested in the 5K words cut from the Dothraki and Yi Ti sections of TWOIAF. Blah, typo, I meant to write Viserys II. Yes, I also have not forgotten about that 5,000 words or so from the Dothraki and Yi Ti that got cut. I'm not even sure how they'd release it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 23 hours ago, Kandrax said: From House Frey page: Osmund Frey, Benfrey's son. A newborn babe. Two year old isn't a newborn. I took that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 "King of the Three Sisters" is an article about the monarchs from the islands, discussing the pirate kings of antiquity and the more recent Marla Sunderland. From what I can tell, GRRM has not used this as a proper title, however. We also don't know if the pirate kings ruled all of the Three Sisters, or if each island had its own king (like the ironborn rock and salt kings of old). Might it be better to move the article to "Sistermen monarchs"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 How about "Kings of the Three Sisters"? That flows better while retaining ambiguity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direpupy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 9 hours ago, The Dragon Demands said: How about "Kings of the Three Sisters"? That flows better while retaining ambiguity. i agree with this i think monarch is to general since a prince can also be a monarch and they books explicitly says kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) yeah Edited July 27, 2022 by The Dragon Demands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Never discussed Tysha with him, so could not say. But George knew in ACoK, in any case, given Jaime's remark about being loved for a kindness he had never done, obviously a clear reference to the lie he told Tyrion at his father's behest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) yeah Edited July 27, 2022 by The Dragon Demands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FictionIsntReal Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I just recently signed up to contribute to the wiki, but have been unable to log in, with errors saying I have cookies disabled on any browser I try, even though the settings in my browsers don't say that. The one change I had planned on making was to add a footnote about the statement that Ashara Dayne's body was never found. As far as I can tell, the books never address that question but someone asked Martin and he replied here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: I just recently signed up to contribute to the wiki, but have been unable to log in, with errors saying I have cookies disabled on any browser I try, even though the settings in my browsers don't say that. The one change I had planned on making was to add a footnote about the statement that Ashara Dayne's body was never found. As far as I can tell, the books never address that question but someone asked Martin and he replied here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1116 I hope the log in issue will be fixed soon. Until then, I've added the SSM info to the Ashara Dayne page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: I just recently signed up to contribute to the wiki, but have been unable to log in, with errors saying I have cookies disabled on any browser I try, even though the settings in my browsers don't say that. The one change I had planned on making was to add a footnote about the statement that Ashara Dayne's body was never found. As far as I can tell, the books never address that question but someone asked Martin and he replied here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1116 Try now. Looks like the sessions directory got filled up. Also, Chrome may be dodgy on logging in, but Firefox tends to work better. Finally, if neither works directly, try putting this in first: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/varnish-bypass.php?enable=1 Then visit the login page, and if you get in, remember to do this: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/varnish-bypass.php?enable=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) The infobox for Jon Snow includes this bastard sigil for him. Has GRRM confirmed this? If not, the infobox should instead display the House Stark sigil, IMO. edit: Would Valyrian Steel count? Edited February 22, 2018 by Nittanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Ah, news on Fire and Blood Volume 1: As already known, the chapters originally written for the World book (which could not hope to fit in it), were the Conquest, Peace of the Dragon, Heirs of the Dragon (Rogue Prince), Dying of the Dragons (Dance of the Dragons), and the Regency of Aegon III. These chapters pretty much skipped over the reign of Jaehaerys I - 55 years of mostly peace. Heirs of the Dragon starts when Jaehaerys I is at the end of his life, dealing with the two major succession crises he faced (I assume death of his eldest son, then death of second eldest, Rhaenys vs Laenor....are these the First and Second Quarrel or was that something else?) GRRM mentioned to Elio that yes, he's "fleshing out" the reign of Jaehaerys I a bit more - because the earlier chapters gloss over it - so this will be new material he wrote purely for Fire and Blood (of course, the Regency is "new" to US, but still). No word in the video if there's going to be material on pre-Conquest Targaryens or Valyria -- that cryptic LiveJournal entry about Fallen Fallen is Babylon seemed to be hinting at that? Maybe Elio didn't ask. Elio did present GRRM with a summation of our biggest concerns from the boards about Errata in the print edition of Sons of the Dragon; George "has notes" on these and will apparently address in Fire and Blood version (I assume Robar vs Rogar Baratheon, Vhagar attacking Reach vs Riverlands, etc.) Another big errata question Elio raised was what exactly happened to Maester Gerardys, as details have been contradictory. GRRM is aware of them and will address in Fire and Blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FictionIsntReal Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 15 hours ago, Ran said: Try now. Looks like the sessions directory got filled up. Also, Chrome may be dodgy on logging in, but Firefox tends to work better. Finally, if neither works directly, try putting this in first: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/varnish-bypass.php?enable=1 Thanks! I still can't log in, but now it's because my user name doesn't exist (I didn't realize at the time that I need to make more forum posts to take the next registration step), rather than because of cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 21 hours ago, Nittanian said: The infobox for Jon Snow includes this bastard sigil for him. Has GRRM confirmed this? If not, the infobox should instead display the House Stark sigil, IMO. edit: Would Valyrian Steel count? That's the only source we have for it, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said: That's the only source we have for it, as far as I know. Do you think the infobox should display it or the Stark sigil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Nittanian said: Do you think the infobox should display it or the Stark sigil? As Martin said to Valyrian Steel "as that is what bastards in Westeros often do", not confirming that Jon himself has, and Jon never identifies with a personal sigil during the series, perhaps the sigil of House Stark might be better. Edited February 24, 2018 by Rhaenys_Targaryen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 In TWOIAF it says that the Greens captured Rosby and Stokeworth before taking Duskendale, which might be worth its own entry. Also, TPATQ implies that the Battle of the Burning Mill and the Taking of Stone Hedge were two separate defeats but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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