Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 hours ago, The hairy bear said: One question: is there a proper way of address to the wife of a master, or even a female master? I ask this because I'm unsure of whether the Sybelle Glover's article should be corrected: Lady Sybelle Glover, originally from House Locke, is the wife of Robett Glover and the mother of Gawen and Erena Glover. In the absence of the brothers Galbart and Robett, Sybelle is the Lady of Deepwood Motte. Sybelle is called "Lady Sybelle" a couple of times in ADWD. But still, the term "Lady of Deepwood Motte" seems odd, since there are no "lords of Deepwood Motte". I wonder if this should be changed to something like "Mistress of Deepwood Motte"? Sybelle being called a lady could be attributed to her coming from House Locke. Or a female master is just called a "lady" and that's all? The A Clash of Kings and A Storm of Swords appendices call her "Lady Sybelle", when listing her, but that doesn't necessarily make her Lady of Deepwood Motte. However, the app lists her title as "Lady of Deepwood Motte", so I suppose it really is her title.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Alcoholism Somehow I think this is a weird article. The persons listed as "Alcoholics" or having "Alcohol tendencies" are chosen rather arbitarily. Once we had a discussion about categorising characters as rapists and decided not to do that because it would always be an assessment a wiki shouldn't do. So what to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The page of Orland of Oldtown mentions the following: The singer is called Orland in A Storm of Swords, Chapter 7 and Chapter 32, but he is listed as Ormond in the Appendix. Do we have any confirmation that Ormond of Oldtown and Orland of Oldtown are the same person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said: The page of Orland of Oldtown mentions the following: The singer is called Orland in A Storm of Swords, Chapter 7 and Chapter 32, but he is listed as Ormond in the Appendix. Do we have any confirmation that Ormond of Oldtown and Orland of Oldtown are the same person? I would be surprised if they are separate characters instead of an editing mistake. Within the text, Orland is connected with Robert (Winterfell feast) and Joffrey (Purple Wedding). Ormond is mentioned in the last three appendices, but is never mentioned in the text. Similarly, the ranger Ebben is called Eggen in the ASOS Appendix. Quote The night your father feasted Robert, I sat in the back of his hall on a bench with the other freeriders, listening to Orland of Oldtown play the high harp and sing of dead kings beneath the sea. (ASOS Jon I) Quote "Only one dancing bear, my lord," said Symon, who had plainly attended Cersei's arrangements with far more interest than Tyrion had, "but seven singers. Galyeon of Cuy, Bethany Fair-fingers, Aemon Costayne, Alaric of Eysen, Hamish the Harper, Collio Quaynis, and Orland of Oldtown will compete for a gilded lute with silver strings . . . yet unaccountably, no invitation has been forthcoming for one who is master of them all." (ASOS Tyrion IV) Quote ORMOND OF OLDTOWN, the royal harper and bard, (ASOS, AFFC, ADWD Appendices) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 16 hours ago, The Wondering Wolf said: Alcoholism Somehow I think this is a weird article. The persons listed as "Alcoholics" or having "Alcohol tendencies" are chosen rather arbitarily. Once we had a discussion about categorising characters as rapists and decided not to do that because it would always be an assessment a wiki shouldn't do. So what to do with it? Maybe include more information about why a character is listed or who considers him/her an alcoholic? For instance: King Robert I Baratheon, considered a drunkard by Sansa Stark{{ref|AGOT|44}} and Cersei Lannister{{ref|AFFC|32}} Septon Cellador, considered a drunkard by Jon Snow{{ref|AGOT|19}}{{ref|ASOS|69}} Ser Dontos Hollard, considered a drunkard by Sansa Stark{{ref|ACOK|18}} Prince Daeron Targaryen, remembered as Daeron the Drunken{{ref|THK}}{{ref|TWOIAF| The Targaryen Kings: Maekar I}} Lord Harmond Umber, remembered as the Drunken Giant{{ref|ADWD|7}}{{ref|TWOIAF| The Wall and Beyond: The Wildlings}} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychnidos Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 20 hours ago, The Wondering Wolf said: Alcoholism Somehow I think this is a weird article. The persons listed as "Alcoholics" or having "Alcohol tendencies" are chosen rather arbitarily. Once we had a discussion about categorising characters as rapists and decided not to do that because it would always be an assessment a wiki shouldn't do. So what to do with it? Is there actually any need of such page to even exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lychnidos said: Is there actually any need of such page to even exist? Of course Nittanian's proposal would be an improvement, but to be honest, I don't see any need for such pages, as well. I mean, what's next? A page called "Mental problems"? Edited May 19, 2016 by The Wondering Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 On 19-5-2016 at 3:43 PM, Nittanian said: I would be surprised if they are separate characters instead of an editing mistake. Within the text, Orland is connected with Robert (Winterfell feast) and Joffrey (Purple Wedding). Ormond is mentioned in the last three appendices, but is never mentioned in the text. Similarly, the ranger Ebben is called Eggen in the ASOS Appendix. I agree that it is likely, but I was wondering whether there ever was any confirmation given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 @Ran, @Nittanian, @Alexander the Drake, @benzar7 As per the discussions from March regarding the pages created concerning the characters and houses featured in the telltale games, I've created a game-specific page for House Forrester and its characters. It's not entirely finished (I'm out of time for today), but this is generally how it will look. Is this what you guys had in mind? Or did you mean something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Looks good to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 On 5/2/2016 at 9:16 PM, The Wondering Wolf said: Thanks. I even think that it came from GRRM himself. Missed this. Yes, George specified that Dornish shields are depicted as round in Westeros for purposes of heraldry, so suggested we do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) The templates at the bottom of the pages are no longer collapsing, despite them being set to collapse as soon as the page has loaded. In fact, the option to "hide" is completely gone. Edited May 25, 2016 by Rhaenys_Targaryen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The link to the website at Category:Images by Anna Christenson is a little bit delicate... Someone should remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 @Ran @Rhaenys_Targaryen @Nittanian or whoever reads this first: The link at Category:Images by Anna Christenson links to to a website promoting porn sites. The site of Anna Christenson is http://www.annachristenson.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Evlys needs to be changed to Evlyn, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, The Wondering Wolf said: @Ran @Rhaenys_Targaryen @Nittanian or whoever reads this first: The link at Category:Images by Anna Christenson links to to a website promoting porn sites. The site of Anna Christenson is http://www.annachristenson.com/ Changed the link! 1 hour ago, The Wondering Wolf said: Evlys needs to be changed to Evlyn, doesn't it? Using asearchoficeandfire, I find no Evlys, only Evlyn. So yes, that page should be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) @Ran, A page has been made on the wiki for a season 6 character from the TV series, while more season 6 information has been added to a few pages (for other TV-series-only characters). What's the policy on this? Edited May 28, 2016 by Rhaenys_Targaryen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Do we apply the same policy to the Cyanide-game characters as to the Telltale game characters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yes on the Cyanide characters/houses. I've no objection to some GoT info on the wiki, so long as it's clear that it's for the TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Is Vulture's Roost a ruined castle or still intact? On the map in the wiki it's marked a ruin, but not on the map uploaded on the website of Random House. Do we have further information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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