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Asap is not a good lyricist and he has a unique kinda style (not only his clothings) but I still like his music.

I think he mostly shines in featurings like 1train or fuckin problems.

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Greatest rapper of all time

http://youtu.be/NkiJDw1Kung

Starts at 0:39

Yes, you can call that rapping if you want to be pedantic about it, given the loose definition of the term (although IMO it's borderline singing in places, so does that disqualify it?). But given this is a thread explicitly about hiphop, I'm not sure how it's relevant.

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Yes, you can call that rapping if you want to be pedantic about it, given the loose definition of the term (although IMO it's borderline singing in places, so does that disqualify it?). But given this is a thread explicitly about hiphop, I'm not sure how it's relevant.

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Because rap is a main ingredient of hip hop, that where I see the relation.

And some people today borderline sing worse than that and are still called rappers.

I'm just saying that was a fuking dope verse bugs bunny was doing in 1950

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Yes, you can call that rapping if you want to be pedantic about it, given the loose definition of the term (although IMO it's borderline singing in places, so does that disqualify it?). But given this is a thread explicitly about hiphop, I'm not sure how it's relevant.

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I agree with this. Hip hop incorporates rap but the genre is a bit more specific.

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Because rap is a main ingredient of hip hop, that where I see the relation.

And some people today borderline sing worse than that and are still called rappers.

To formulate logically, I would argue that the following things are true:

1) Not all rapping is hip-hop. (As you yourself have pointed out, rapping as an art-form predates Hip-hop quite significantly)

2) Not all hip-hop is rap. (There's plenty of hip-hop that does not involve rap music, despite their strong association)

And hence that one can divide music into the following four groups:

A] Rap, but not hip-hop.

B] Hip-hop, but not rap.

C] Hip-hop that is rap.

D] Music that is neither hip-hop nor rap.

Your example is in category A, while the subject matter of the thread is predominantly category C with a smattering of B. There's not really any reason to bring up a category A in this thread unless it is to discuss the historical origins of rap as it pertains to hip-hop...and I don't really see how Bugs Bunny calling out folk-dance style instructions really qualifies as that.

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Rap is the common denominator of 99% of hip hop, So if I found a clip of a rock drummer playing a beat that sounded like a traditional hip hop beat, would you say it has no place on this thread because rock drummers aren't hip hop?

That's what I did with the bugs clip, in my opinion that 1950 flow was better than a lot of rappers today.

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but your video didn't soujnd like traditional hiphop

A drummer alone doesn't either, a drum beat is just one element that goes into a traditional hip hop performance. The same way a person(cartoon) rapping is one element that goes into a hip hop production.

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I'm just saying that was a fuking dope verse bugs bunny was doing in 1950

Wtf? I have no idea what you are going on about here.

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Wtf? I have no idea what you are going on about here.

What? You think it's weird that this thread has turned into a Bugs Bunny rapping argument?

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