Brude Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I wonder how the whole chapter-through-the-eyes-of-one-character thing will work on tv if they will even try to do it...They aren't, the pilot script is written like a traditional screenplay and scenes are integrated more in chronological order rather than by POV. We also get more of characters like Jaime and Cersei from the start, whom we of course don't get POVs from until later books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitheach Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I wonder about Lady Stoneheart. Will she look like a zombie or what? Im not sure how it wont seem rediculous on screen, but in the book she was horrific in the truest sense. There are definitely scenes that will have to be pulled off just right for the series that wont create disbelief. We don't want them to cut out these scenes (it is a world with magic) but it needs to feel organic and real, not fairytale-ish or campy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchb3rry Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I wonder how the whole chapter-through-the-eyes-of-one-character thing will work on tv if they will even try to do it...Probably the same way Lost is filmed. Where, for the most part, the scene just follows one character around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanatie Snow Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 the lost way could give me some satisfaction I guess...I can't wait for the series but I don't really want to watch it for fear of disappointment,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lark the Sisterman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I just wonder if Tyrion will lose a nose in the 2nd season...TBH I was very pissed with GRRM for that, Tyrion had enough deformities to begin with and there was no need to make him a miniRorge. So I hope the series will rectify that and let Dinklage keep both his nostrils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungtotte Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 There is, thus far, nothing hinging on him specifically missing a nose, so they might just end up scarring him in some other distinctive way (the attack itself is more important than how it scars Tyrion) in order to make it easier on themselves in terms of make-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanatie Snow Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 that's one of my favorite things in GRRMs world...it's real, nothing is fair just because it would be nice if it was...bad things do happen to good people and vice versa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lark the Sisterman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 that's one of my favorite things in GRRMs world...it's real, nothing is fair just because it would be nice if it was...bad things do happen to good people and vice versa...Ye, that's what I like about it too. I can still be pissed about the unfairness of it though, much like I do in real life. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanatie Snow Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'll bomb him when he kkills tyrion and jon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Craster Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 insert smiley in the above post? If not... you got me worried... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 No need to be worried. We all have plans to kill GRRM hidden away in case he kills off our favorite character.Mine will only go into action if he somehow lets Catelyn live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanatie Snow Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 catelyn? I'd vote for brienne but hey...oh and smiley's seem to elude me on this computer...they come out like this x( unless I do them by clicking on the smiley thing and wait for a minute...still waiting...hmm...hmm...ah, here we go... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aystan Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 You can shoot that without actually seeing the act, itself - in fact it's often the case that when you cut away at the last second (and if done right), people will fill in the worst possible thing in their mind making it far more powerful than if you showed it yourself. Many people will actually remember having seen the moment, even though they just created it in their own mind. Happens all the time.The shower scene in Psycho is the perfect example. You never once see the knife touching flesh, but you hear it and you see the blood trailing down the tub, and then Janet Leigh lying dead, half-way hanging out of the tub, yet the scene was so disturbing in its day that people ran from the theater vomiting or passed out in their seats, most of them having imagined far, far worse images than they ever actually saw.Or the infamous chainsaw scene in Scarface. You don't actually see the act but the scene is horrific nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aystan Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I wonder how they're going to do the Wall, and especially Mance Rayder's attack on it. Mammoths, giants and a 700 feet tall structure is going to stretch any special effects budget.Being in the 3D animation business (albeit in a very minor role at this point), I think I can answer this question. Do you remember Pellenor Field or Helm's Deep in LOTR? That's the beauty of CGI. It's much cheaper than doing it the old fashion way and you can get close to realistic results with today's technology. This is really a mild problem compared to trying to convey POV plot points in a medium where we don't get to go inside the character's head. This is why I have never been a fan of converting novels to movies/television shows... The mediums are just too different and movies/television shows tend to be formulaic (simplified) for a reason. This happened with LOTR (a much simpler story arc than ASOIAF) and will certainly happen here.ASOIAF is just too complicated and cerebral for the average TV viewer who has a tough time remembering 7-8 main characters let alone the roughly 20 in the FIRST novel of the series. Compound that with the fact that Martin has over 100 characters who are given lines/plot points, expect a lot of viewers to be lost unless the plots/characters are simplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aystan Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 that's one of my favorite things in GRRMs world...it's real, nothing is fair just because it would be nice if it was...bad things do happen to good people and vice versa...*SPOILER ALERT*Chronologically, deaths will certainly be changed/removed. I'll be surprised if Ned dies before season 1 finale, with the last episode being Robs victory at Battle of Whispering Wood. It's harder to look past the first season... since it has to be picked up for a second for it to continue... but if the actor playing Rob makes him become a very popular character, he may not even die until season 4 if at all. Also, HBO exec's will exert their control in order to "correct" things that they felt didn't work in the first season and shove down our throats the things that did work. Don't mean to be a complete pessimist, but this is the business side of things where creativity takes a backseat :( Having said all that, I think the show will be AMAZING. Just not nearly as good as the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I disagree with most of what you said.Ned's Death? Season one finale, definitely. Won't even take much timeline changing for it to work.But the Red Wedding will probably be season three. It's supposed to be a shocker.I think the show will be better. HBO is not known for Executive Meddling. Ever. Tell me one show that was made worse by HBO. Hell, they kept a show that had only 1.5 million viewers for another two seasons because they knew it was good, without making changes (The Wire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
About Yea High Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I'm only going to kill him if he dies before completing the series and takes the ending with him to his grave. You hear that, Martin?! You do that - you're a dead man!... Uh, wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Ned's Death? Season one finale, definitely. Won't even take much timeline changing for it to work.Timeline wise, Ned's death should happen at the end of the second last episode. Otherwise events after his death in aGOt wouldn't make much sense (e.g. Robb becoming King). I imagine that Bean sees the advantage in been signed up for 1 season only also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Either end of second to last episode or beginning of last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thotk Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 they'll need Bean to film the various flashbacks of some of the characters, specifically his roll in Robert's rebellion, unless of course they film those during Season 1 and just toss them on a pile for later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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