House Tully Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Grumpyjack's final list of possible FM trios:Primary Suspects1) Mini – Sneezy – Dopey2) Mini – Sneezy – Tyrion3) Mini – Sneezy – Happy4) Mini – Sneezy – Sleepy5) Mini – Dopey – Sleepy6) Sneezy – Dopey – SleepySecondary Suspects*7) Mini – Dopey – Bashful8) Mini – Dopey – Tyrion9) Mini – Alberich – Bashful10) Mini – Alberich – Sneezy11) Mini – Alberich – Tyrion12) Sneezy - Dopey - Tyrion13) Sneezy - Alberich - Happy14) Bashful - Alberich - HappyDoesn't help us too much, but it shows that WJ did an excellent job. However, I think he missed exactly the only Mini-Dopey scenario with a third FM in it.Happy is missing because WJ excluded him for voting pattern reasons. That's the major point that speaks for Happy being innocent. Have to think about this a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 If morning doesn't rise soon, this is my last post in this year :)I wish you all a Happy New Year.. including FM's :) After all, this is just a game :grouphug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Tully Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 If morning doesn't rise soon, this is my last post in this year :)I wish you all a Happy New Year.. including FM's :) After all, this is just a game :grouphug:Sneezy, don't go! Please guard Happy!Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Sneezy, don't go! Please guard Happy!Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm still here. Why? Tyrion's reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Bashful, please, hurry up, I really need to leave. New provisional is ready, I just want to hear why.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Targaryen Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 You all wake up to a shocking scene this morning... No-one is dead, slumped over their present. As you all gather round, you see it's addressed to Sneezy. "I wonder what it could be?" he muses, before unwrapping a magnifying glass.As he lifts it up to the sun to try to burn an ant, you all notice someone impaled on the top of the tree. It was Bashful, a good dwarf if ever there was one, and he was Piper of Chaos.It is day 6.4 players remain: Happy, Sleeppy, Sneezy, Tyrion L.3 votes are needed for a conviction or 2 to go to night.4 players have not voted: Happy, Sleeppy, Sneezy, Tyrion L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Tully Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Provisional changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Now I really must leave, my train leaves in 30 minutes. Good fun tonight.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh for God's sake!I take it that Sneezy didn't get his changed action in on time?ETA: Sneezy, I'm almost certain you action wasn't changed, but could you confirm it with the mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Velaryon Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh for God's sake!I take it that Sneezy didn't get his changed action in on time?I'm going to fuc*ing be late.. Curiosity.. Yes, the provisional stayed on Tyrion.. Targ informed me that I was too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Clegane Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 We need to know who was guarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Clegane Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 eta: i'm a moron who can't read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I'd suggest we go to night in order to narrow the field, but my from my point of view it won't change anything. I've got the field narrowed to two and I don't think going to night is going to improve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Sneezy, when you get back, was your guard power only a one shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I have to leave as well. I don't want to do anything until Sneezy gets back anyway.Sorry to any spectators who were hoping for a fast resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Clegane Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 It's nice to be CI :)I wouldn't mind a Santa reveal at this point - it's all extra information.I looked at Mex's explanantion and he said the magnifying glass that Sneezy got is a one-shot finder. If so, then if Sneezy is innocent, I suggest we go to night, Sneezy guards and finds Happy. If happy is evil we will find out and there will be no kill - we can then lynch him. If Sleepy is evil, I will probably be killed and Sleepy will hope to persuade Happy that Sneezy is evil. If Sneezy is evil then Sneezy will have won because Happy can be completely framed. So I hope Sneezy is innocent. I already kind of assume Sneezy is innocent though, so this plan is just to make sure Sleepy is innocent too.If anyone wants to point out a flaw in it, please do. I won't vote for night until people have commented on the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Clegane Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 FWIW Happy was pretty clearly Bash's favourite for the lynch today, which counts against him I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 It's nice to be CI :)I wouldn't mind a Santa reveal at this point - it's all extra information.Screw it all, I'm Santa. There isn't much the FM can do with the information now. I gave the Toy Soldiers (vig) to WJ and the Joke Book (guard) to Gert. The WJ one, I'll admit, was a little stupid. I was thinking that the FM would be trying to anticipate where the vig would go and would kill the expected recipient (who, I believed, would not be Grumpy). I really believe that Sneezy should have been the kill the night before last and Gert should have been safe. Either way my gift ensured that we would have at least one (claimed) guard power to use last night. I gave the Magnifying Glass (finder) to Sneezy because I was sick of my gift recipients being killed and I thought there was a decent chance he's survive the night. He was the most innocent looking of the people likely to survive.Some rules for Santa (which I don't think Mex shared): Each gift can only be given once.A person can't receive a second gift until everyone has had one.Santa can gift himself but not select the gift (it will be chosen randomly)If Santa doesn't send a night action a random gift will be sent to a random person.The vig kill is not a vig kill if given to an FM. For an FM it prevents their NK from being blocked (healers and guards have no effect).I looked at Mex's explanantion and he said the magnifying glass that Sneezy got is a one-shot finder. If so, then if Sneezy is innocent, I suggest we go to night, Sneezy guards and finds Happy. If happy is evil we will find out and there will be no kill - we can then lynch him. If Sleepy is evil, I will probably be killed and Sleepy will hope to persuade Happy that Sneezy is evil. If Sneezy is evil then Sneezy will have won because Happy can be completely framed. So I hope Sneezy is innocent. I already kind of assume Sneezy is innocent though, so this plan is just to make sure Sleepy is innocent too.If anyone wants to point out a flaw in it, please do. I won't vote for night until people have commented on the plan.Only the flaw you've already acknowledged, namely that Sneezy receiving the gift doesn't do anything to clear him. I was aware, in giving out the gift, that it was only going to be useful for Sneezy in making his own decision. No one else would really be able to trust what he reported. Let's be honest: it's Sneezy, Happy and you or Sneezy, Happy and me tomorrow, so the question of you trusting me doesn't really come into it.I'll vote night now. I don't anticipate learning much from it, but there's a good chance that you or Sneezy can gain some information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Clegane Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Only the flaw you've already acknowledged, namely that Sneezy receiving the gift doesn't do anything to clear him. I was aware, in giving out the gift, that it was only going to be useful for Sneezy in making his own decision. No one else would really be able to trust what he reported. Let's be honest: it's Sneezy, Happy and you or Sneezy, Happy and me tomorrow, so the question of you trusting me doesn't really come into it.I'll vote night now. I don't anticipate learning much from it, but there's a good chance that you or Sneezy can gain some information.Im very hopeful that we'll all be alive tomorrow, but it will come down to a decision whether to trust Sneezy or not I guess. It would have been nice to have that 1 shot finder myself, but never mind :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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