Wastrel Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 I've never read them, so I don't know whether I, as an individual, would consider them that way.How this poll will consider them will depend on how the voting goes. Vandermeer certainly looks like getting on the list, but I don't know whether he'll get two books or one. If he gets one, as it stands I'll probably put Ambergris as a series, as Shriek and CoSaM aren't that far apart in the voting - if the balance tips further toward CoSaM, I'll probably just cite that. If there are two slots, I'll put both separately, or CoSaM+somethingelse, or Ambergris+somethingelse, depending on the balance of votes.There is a degree to which interpretation of the votes will be exactly that... interpretation, not pure rule-following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball07 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 The Lord of the Rings- J.R.R TolkienA Song of Ice and Fire- George R.R. MartinMalazan, Book of the Fallen- Steven EriksonWatership Down- Richard AdamsThe Silmarillion- J.R.R Tolkien1984- George OrwellBrave New World- Aldoux HuxleyThe Chronicles of Narnia- C.S. LewisHitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy- Douglas AdamsThe Hobbit- J.R.R TolkienMagician- Raymond E. FeistDracula- Bram StokerDiscworld Series- Terry PratchettThe Wheel of Time- Robert JordanThe Saga of Darren Shan- Darren ShanThe Black Company- Glen CookRedwall- Brian JacquesNeverwhere- Neil GaimanThe First Law Trilogy- Joe AbercrombieHarry Potter- J.K. Rowling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Hat Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Okay then, here's my tentative list. I fully expect to change at least a bit of it before this's over, but might as well post something for now:A Song of Ice and Fire – George RR MartinCity of Saints and Madmen – Jeff VanderMeerThe Fiction – HP LovecraftChasm City – Alastair ReynoldsMistborn – Brandon SandersonDreamsongs – George RR MartinVeniss Underground – Jeff VanderMeerFinch – Jeff VanderMeerShip of Magic – Robin Hobb*The Scar – China MievilleTitus Groan – Mervyn Peake*The Wheel of Time – Robert JordanAltered Carbon– Richard K. MorganMarket Forces – Richard K. MorganHouse of Suns – Alastair ReynoldsMalazan – Steven EriksonEnder’s Quartet – Orson Scott CardThe Long Price – Daniel AbrahamThe First Law – Joe AbercrombieThe Prince of Nothing – R. Scott Bakker* Didn’t put the series name because I’ve only read the first volume. To be fair, I haven’t finished Malazan yet either, but I’m at least far enough in to have a decent idea about the series as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroGeo Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 A Song of Ice and Fire - George R R Martin The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R TolkienThe First Law - Joe Abercrombie1984 - George OrwellWatchmen - Alan MoorePreacher - Garth EnnisThe Warlord Chronicles - Bernard CornwellThe Once and Future King - T. H. WhiteThe Hobbit - J.R.R TolkienDon Quixote - Miguel de CervantesMagician - Raymond E. FeistBest Served Cold - Joe AbercrombieThe League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Alan MooreThe Stand - Stephen KingThe Wheel of Time - Robert JordanLe Morte d'Arthur - Sir Thomas MaloryThe Kingdom of Thorn and Bone - Greg KeyesThe Black Company - Glen CookDreamsongs Volume 2 - George R R MartinLegend - David Gemmell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darzin Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Prince of Nothing- Scott BakkerBook of the New Sun- Gene WolfeFirst Law- Joe Abercrombie1984- Geroge OrwellBest Served Cold- Joe AbercrombieThe Lies of Locke Lamora- Scott LynchThe Black Company- Glen CookThe Engineer Trilogy- K.J. ParkerWheel of Time- Robert JordanA Clockwork Orange- Antony BurgessLord of The Rings J.R.R. TolkienHitchhikers Guid to the Galaxy- Douglas AdamsDune- Frank HerbertUse of Weapons- Ian M. BanksGodless World- Brain RuckleyLitany of the Long Sun- Gene WolfeThe Wounded Land- Stephen R. DonaldsonBrave New World- Aldous HuxleyWatership Down- Richard AdamsThe Pearls of Lutra- Brian Jaques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesM Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 A song of ice and fire - GRRMWatchmen - Alan MooreI am Legend - Richard MathesonHyperion - Dan Simmonslord of the rings - TolkeinFevre dream - GRRMGentleman bastard - Scott LynchThe Stars my destination - Alfred BesterName of the Wind - Patrick RothfussThe Separation - Chrispher PriestTakeshi Kovacs trilogy - Richard MorganWorld war Z - Max BrooksThe Steel Remains - Richard MorganFirst Law - Joe AbercrombieOld Man's war - John ScalziNight Watch trilogy - Terry PratchettJoe Pitt - Charlie HustonThe Lost World - Arthur Conan DoyleThe Terror - Dan SimmonsLeague of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Alan Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 An Edge of the Forest, Agnes SmithTill We Have Faces, C. S. LewisShardik, Richard AdamsLittle, Big, John CrowleyA Song of Ice and Fire, George R. R. MartinTigana, Guy Gavriel KayEarth Abides, George R. StewartThe Lord of the Rings, J. R. R. TolkienA Trio for Lute, R. A. MacAvoyGormenghast, Mervyn PeakeMordant's Need, Stephen R. DonaldsonDune, Frank HerbertThe Unlikely Ones, Mary BrownThe Wonderful Wizard of Oz, L. Frank BaumThe Mabinogian Tetralogy, Evangeline WaltonThe Blue Star, Fletcher Pratt{Hyperion Cantos, Dan Simmons}The Sparrow, Mary Doria RussellThe Last Unicorn, Peter BeagleThe Once and Future King, T. H. WhiteThe Mists of Avalon, Marion Zimmer BradleyI would like to replace Hyperion Cantos with The Sparrow in my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procrastimancer Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Only Forward - Michael Marshall SmithThe Other City - Michal AjvazMythago Wood - Robert HoldstockTransmetropolitan - Warren Ellis Finch Jeff VanderMeerThe Gone-Away World - Nick HarkawayI Am Legend - Richard MathesonThe Facts of Life - Graham JoyceMalazan Book of the Fallen - Steven EriksonThe Thousandfold Thought - R. Scott BakkerAltered Carbon - Richard K. MorganThe Lies of Locke Lamora - Scott LynchBefore They Are Hanged- Joe AbercrombieEscape From Hell! - Hal DuncanStarship Troopers - Robert HeinleinMarket Forces - Richard K. MorganFragile Things - Neil GaimanFell Warren EllisLord of Light - Roger ZelaznyHitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas AdamsAlso, though I do not know if this will be counted. I have a list from a reader who is not a member of the board, but still wanted to contribute. If it counts, then all is good. If not, then oh well.Deadhouse Gates - Steven EriksonThe Scar - China Miéville1984 - George OrwellBlade of Tyshalle - Matthew StoverThe Warrior-Prophet - R. Scott BakkerThe Moon Is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. HeinleinBrave New World - Aldous HuxleyThe Dispossessed - Ursula K. Le GuinA Storm of Swords - George R. R. MartinMarket Forces - Richard K. MorganGormenghast - Mervyn PeakeThe Claw of the Conciliator - Gene WolfeThe Black Company - Glen CookPlanetary - Warren Ellis/John CassadayAmerican Gods - Neil GaimanDune - Frank HerbertThe Dark Tower - Stephen KingShriek: An Afterword - Jeff VanderMeerCity of Golden Shadow - Tad WilliamsFables - Bill Willingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadams Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 A Song of Ice and Fire - MartinDune - HerbertWarlord Chronicles - CornwellThe Moon is a Harsh Mistress - HeinleinEnder's Game - CardSpeaker for the Dead - CardHyperion - SimmonsLord of the Rings - TolkienRobot series - AsimovCommonwealth Saga - HamiltonThe Book of the New Sun - WolfeEarthsea series - LeGuinThe Martian Chronicles - BradburyAbhorsen Chronicles - NixHitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - AdamsHarry Potter series - RowlingFoundation trilogy - AsimovSpin - WilsonThe Reality Dysfunction - HamiltonCryptonomicon - Stephenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borque Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Ok, here are my votes. This was really hard.Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. TolkienDune - Frank HerbertPrince of Nothing - R. Scott BakkerThe Road - Cormac McCarthyA Song of Ice and Fire - George R.R. MartinHyperion - Dan SimmonsPlayer of Games - Iain M. BanksEyes of the Overworld - Jack VanceWatership Down - Richard AdamsThe Lions of al-Rassan - Guy Gavriel KayThe Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever - Stephen DonaldsonThe Lyonesse Trilogy - Jack VanceLord of Light - Roger ZelaznyA Canticle for Leibowitz - Walter MillerEnder’s Game – Orson Scott CardThe Book of the New Sun - Gene WolfeNeuromancer - William GibsonThe Earthsea Trilogy - Ursula Le GuinThe Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas AdamsSnow Crash - Neal StephensonDamnit, I want to get Pratchett and Gaiman in there too, as well as Donaldson's Gap Sequence, but I can't figure out how. And I need to bold more than two books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyweather Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Damnit, I want to get Pratchett and Gaiman in there too, as well as Donaldson's Gap Sequence, but I can't figure out how.I feel your pain. I had them both Pratchett and Gaiman on my original list, but they got cut when I realized I forgot both Wolfe and Zelazny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wastrel Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 A slightly complicated post.First thing first: I'm aware that, although I've been coming here, or to its predecessor board, for almost a decade, and actively posting for a year, I've never really found a place here - I think I've made about two or three posts in that time that haven't been shouted down or ignored, and I rather embarrasingly needed the merciful good words of a few good people here to even be allowed to run this poll; things have now come to a head, as you may have seen, and it having been revealed how I am thought of by people here, and most importantly by your authorities, I'm not sure that my position here is tenable for me.As a result, I think I have to take some time away from this board - perhaps a week, perhaps two or three - while I think about things: whether to save you from my further presence, or whether to limit myself perhaps to non-Literature subforums, or to only particular types of post/thread. Assuming that, as seems likely, the mods would rather delete my posts or prohibit me from replying to people, rather than actually banning me.------The point of all this: I've compiled almost all the ballots so far, and it seems that they have slowed down almost to a halt. This seems a fortuitous coincidence with the former self-pitying whining: perhaps it would be appropriate to set a deadline of next Sunday for all remaining votes to be cast? I still intend to compile this list, although I regret having become involved in it: I have spent hours and hours of my free time recording nearly 1500 total nominations for over 500 different books, for people who either don't know me or don't like me, and who in general probably couldn't care less about the results and are likely just using this as an excuse to list their own favourites (not that there is anything wrong with that, but I suspect I could come up with any list of 100 that I fancied without anybody noticing). Even for me, it is nothing more than the sort of "intellectual exercise" that is forbidden here. However, having put so much time and effort into it, I suspect I will complete it for reasons of vanity, although to be honest right now I could not be less interested in any of it.So, if you still want to vote, please do it in the next week; after that, I can't guarrentee I'll either be around to see, or have enough motivation to care - although if I check in next Sunday and see that people are voting furiously, I'll probably be willing to extend the deadline. Unless you've been voting furiously all week, in which case I don't know whether or not I can stand compiling it all. Of course, maybe I will do it anyway - after all, I was stupid enough to sign up for this, wasn't I? Once I've compiled it, I'll give you a list - either in person, or through one of the members here I know from elsewhere, if I've either been banned or have left permanently. ----To those who will swear at and/or mock this post: yes, I know how people reply to leaving posts, thank you, I'm sure your opinion of my for this is no lower than my own is. Having made a commitment, however, it would seem unfair of me to simply disappear for a week, a fortnight or forever without explaining what's going on with this project.Hopefully see you all next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Hat Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'll just say that, agree or disagree, I've never seen you make a post on these forums that wasn't well thought out, and I'd be sad to see you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Oop North Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 The Book of the New Sun - Gene WolfeThe Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. TolkienA Storm of Swords - George R.R. MartinThe Anubis Gates - Tim PowersThe Road - Cormac McCarthyThe Last Unicorn - Peter BeagleAutumn of the Patriarch - Gabriel Garcia MarquezDune - Frank HerbertThe Prince of Nothing - R. Scott BakkerAmazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay - Michael ChabonMythago Wood - Robert HoldstockCyteen - C.J. CherryhAt The Mountains of Madness - H.P. LovecraftSomething Wicked This Way Comes - Ray BradburyBaltasar and Blimunda - Jose SaramagoInvisible Cities - Italo CalvinoFoucault's Pendulum - Umberto EcoPerdido Street Station - China MievilleHyperion - Dan SimmonsNeverwhere - Neil GaimanHoly crap. That was hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroishi Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I just wanted to say that I, for one, will be very interested in the results of the poll, I even intend to use it as a sort of informal reading guideline for the next few years. And I'd like to thank you for undertaking the tedious task of implementing the system, and collecting/calculating the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep the Evicted Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 but I suspect I could come up with any list of 100 that I fancied without anybody noticing.Please don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Lots of us have undertaken (thankless) tasks whether on this board or others which have eaten up HUGE chunks of our free time. This is something to think about before volunteering to do something. I think you'd feel better if you attempted to complete what you've started.I have no idea what the personal drama you refer to is all about so I have nowt to say about that, but I didn't think that the suggestion that you get 'a respected boarder' or whatever to do this poll instead/as well was personally directed at you. I thought it was just because of your 'n00b status' in the eyes of the person who made that comment. I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've either been banned or have left permanently. don't leave; get banned instead. if you leave first, then the would-be banner will say that it was voluntary, and you are left to prove constructive banning, i.e., that conditions were so intolerable that the reasonable person would feel compelled to resign because of the oppression, harrassment, or discrimination. it's a difficult burden to prove in most jurisdictions, so if you want to preserve your chances of recovering for tortious interference with internet commmunication, i advise that you let them ban you, and then sue for the wrongful discharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 By the way, Wastrel, if you collect the data (as I sincerely hope you will), do try to retain the votes by anonymous individual. It would be fun to do some kind of cluster analysis and turn the data into a recommendation system.(These things work like this: if many people vote for (x,y,z), and Bob votes for (x,y) then an algorithm can recommend z to Bob. But you need to retain the data per respondent, instead of just collating votes per book.)Note that I am not officially volunteering to actually implement that algorithm any time soon! But it would be a shame to throw away data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Note that I am not officially volunteering to actually implement that algorithm any time soon! But it would be a shame to throw away data.Just save the thread. Theres your data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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