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UK Politics VII - Going down on Downing Street


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There seems to be an excessive amount of sticking the knife into Labour considering they lost

I think it gets childish when they insist on repeating "Labour's financial crisis". If they had chosen to focus more narrowly, say on how Brown has mismanaged the budget and the cuts that will necessitate, that would have been understandable. But the PM's control over the American mortage market is quite limited.

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It is childish. But OTOH, it's also kinda fair turnabout for Brown, who was quite happy to take the credit for the boom when it happened. "Golden Chancellor" and all that.

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So in my extreme ignorance I'd always assumed that the Lib Dems were to the left of Labour. But I'm always hearing them described over here now as the "centrist" Lib Dems.

Technically Labour were the lefties, the Tories were the righties, and the Lib Dems had the middle. Then they all started jostling for the middle spot until there wasn't any room left, and the LDs got squeezed a bit more leftish by default. Both are extremist pinko commies by US standards, however. :commie:

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Even The Guardian are writing Cameron/Clegg slash now...

Edit: Wolf Maid beat me to it! (it was her link in the first place though)

Ah, I like to see that we are ahead of the times.

Here's a roundup from the beeb of all of the Real Person Fanfic in the papers today. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8679224.stm

Yes it is childish to do that however I remember many many many years of Brown blaming everything on the Tory government beforehand so: nah, nah, ne-nah nah. biggrin.gif

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The alternative view is that not to have improved significantly on the 2005 result when facing a Prime Minister who was phenomenally unpopular in the country, who committed by far the biggest gaffe of the campaign, when the country was in severe financial straits (something that usually affects the ballot box far more than foreign misadventures), when they had a literally unprecedented level of publicity and positive media coverage to the point of the Guardian endorsing them, when the voters seemed clearly uneasy about taking the Tory party to their heart, and when the polls actually had them in second place on occasion (and never below their eventual result) is indeed not a bad result: it's an awful result.

You miserable Scot. :)*

*yes I resort to childish name-calling when reasoned arguments fail me :)

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Hmm, that picture of Cameron and Clegg staring lovely into each other's eyes....I wonder what they were saying to each other....

Cameron: I want to make you happy, Nick. I want to build a home for each of your tiny toes. I want to cover your sexy little body in pepper and sneeze all over you.

Clegg: I really think I must protest!

Cameron: What is the matter with you, Nick?

Clegg: Well, it's all so sudden, I mean the nest bit's fine, but the pepper business is definitely out!

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Hmm, that picture of Cameron and Clegg staring lovely into each other's eyes....I wonder what they were saying to each other....

Cameron: I want to make you happy, Nick. I want to build a home for each of your tiny toes. I want to cover your sexy little body in pepper and sneeze all over you.

Clegg: I really think I must protest!

Cameron: What is the matter with you, Nick?

Clegg: Well, it's all so sudden, I mean the nest bit's fine, but the pepper business is definitely out!

oh god, if only i were still in possession of paint shop pro I'd have that on a gif icon so fast your head would spin.

absolutely perfect!!

N

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Seems to me that this coalition has a lot to recommend it. Based on the compromises they've said they'll make, the government should be much closer to that socially liberal/fiscally conservative blend that so many moderates say they want than a government formed by either of the two parties without a coalition. Or have I been misinformed on the implications of the coalition?

Will be interesting to see how things turn out.

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Since the labour leadership election has now begun, how do we think that will pan out? Miliband seems to have the backing of some senior labour people, but what are the odds of an upset?

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Since the labour leadership election has now begun, how do we think that will pan out? Miliband seems to have the backing of some senior labour people, but what are the odds of an upset?

I seriously hope there is one, or I'm going to have trouble telling the party leaders apart.

'Right, that's the guy... mid-40s, youthful-looking, dark hair, never had a proper job outside politics. Oh yeah, that's all of them, isn't it?'

Also, Milliband has never really given a speech that impressed me, never done anything that impressed me, and chickened out of trying to topple Brown on more than one occasion.

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The Independent front cover just did a marriage style montage today.

ALL the papers are doing it*. Every last one of em seems to have a front page headline like "Special Relationship" or "It's True Love". Once again, the board is ahead of the game. :lol:

*except the Morning Star, whose headline said merely "Posh Chaps Seize Power", or similar...

**Doing it. Hur hur.

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Ed is going to steal it from David "the favourite candidate' condemning David to shriek through the corridors as the Smoke monster, destroying MPs judged to be wrong'uns until the end of days.

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Ed is going to steal it from David "the favourite candidate' condemning David to shriek through the corridors as the Smoke monster, destroying MPs judged to be wrong'uns until the end of days.

I hope not if only because I can't wait to see the headline "Balls Licked". Or possibly " Balls Thoroughly Licked" if he looses really badly.

Aren't the Tories at least socialists by US standards?

At least, if not actually Communists and Anarchists.

The old joke was that the Republican Party is a political party rather similar to the Conservative party and the Democratic Party is a political party rather similar to the Conservative party. Since most Conservatives by and large support a public health system, a public welfare system and a public education system funded from tax revenue actually they are probably off the US political left-right scale.

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