Ran Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 No, he's definitely referring to Arya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hnim Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Why is it that Theon gets so angry when Ramsay says he wants Kyra? I mean he just saved his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanta Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Why is it that Theon gets so angry when Ramsay says he wants Kyra? I mean he just saved his life.In Theon's mind, Kyra belongs to him. Since he's the Prince of Winterfell no other man may have her. So Theon sees Ramsay wanting Kyra as being insolent, and Theon is very sensitive about any slights against his authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I thought the general consensus was that he was referring to Lyanna...no?Since Lyanna was dead at that time, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklich528 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Since Lyanna was dead at that time, no.When I first read it I had thought Jaime was referring to some kind of memory that happened some time ago. Obviously I'm wrong however since most people seem to agree that he was referring to Arya. Thanks for the clarification all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biter Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Question about legitimacy of children: At what point does a bastard become a bastard? Is it at conception or birth? Eg. if a bastard was conceived, and then the parents were married even as much as a few days prior to the birth, would that make the child legitimate? Or must it be conceived only after the wedding?Normally, a bastard is defined as someone born out of wedlock. So if the parents married just before the birth, that would indeed make the child legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hnim Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Another question, why did Benjen Stark join the Watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Another question, why did Benjen Stark join the Watch?Only GRRM knows. Fan speculation run wild from "he raped Lyanna" to "he was the third son and planned to go there all along" passing by amusing things like "he feels guilty for being involved in the triggering of the war" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 who was Aegon the Unlikely's wife?Edit - Thanks, Ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 That information hasn't been published (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I don't know if anyone has the answer to this, but how did the Tyrells end up becoming the liege lord of Oldtown? Seems like Oldtown has both history and prestige over Highgarden and as was mentioned in AFFC Lord Hightower can call 3 times as many banners as any of Highgarden's other bannermen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimnara Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It seems to me that the Tyrells are good at "upjumping". They started as stewards of the ruling family in the Reach. I think this family was called "the Gardeners" and they were kings in this part of land. During the Conquest, or maybe through Black Harren (I need to reread this part) the Gardeners were extinguished and the Tyrells ruled in their place. So this seems to be the reason for their position.Edit:Lady Olenna to Sansa: "[..]You Starks were kings once, the Arryns and the Lanniststers as well, and even the Baratheons through the female line, but the Tyrells were no more than stewards until Aegon the Dragon came along and cooked the rightful king of the Reach on the Field of Fire. If truth be told even our claim to Highgarden is a bit dodgy, just as those dreadful Florents are always claiming. [..]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Another question, why did Benjen Stark join the Watch?Perhaps there is an interesting story but I get the impression that it's a combination of it not being uncommon to send your extra, highborn sons to the Wall, and the Starks have always been a friend to the Watch. When Ben returns to the Wall Winterfell gives him horses, anything the Wall needs. Winterfell and the Wall are very closely allied, so I don't think they'd do anything else with Benjen. However one doubt about that would be that Benjen joined the Watch after his brother died. Winterfell already lost one heir, so they were ok with only having Ned? They felt that safe? I guess so considering the tone of the beginning scenes in Winterfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hnim Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 It is said on the wiki that Lame Lothar (edit: helped) engineer the Red Wedding. Where is this revealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDanny Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 It is said on the wiki that Lame Lothar (edit: helped) engineer the Red Wedding. Where is this revealed?"Lord Walder had ordered the slaughter of the Starks at Roslin's wedding, but it had been Lame Lothar who had plotted it out with Roose Bolton, all the way down to which songs would be played." (ASoS 917 US hardback)Some of Merrett Frey's thoughts as he rides to deliver Petyr Pimple's ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 How old is Sandor Clegane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 How old is Sandor Clegane?I think 26 at the start of the series - Gregor is 17 at the sack of KL 15 years ago and Sandor is six years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 However one doubt about that would be that Benjen joined the Watch after his brother died. Winterfell already lost one heir, so they were ok with only having Ned? Ah, but Ben Stark joined the Watch after Ned returned with an heir. (Right?) Benjen deliberately removes himself from the line of succession, to make it clear that house Stark continues through Ned’s branch, even though Ben has been the Stark in Winterfell for a long time.(Or I’m making things up…) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Ah, but Ben Stark joined the Watch after Ned returned with an heir. (Right?) Benjen deliberately removes himself from the line of succession, to make it clear that house Stark continues through Ned's branch, even though Ben has been the Stark in Winterfell for a long time.(Or I'm making things up…)Possibly. I think its logically assumed (due to his age the "Stark in Winterfell" tradition) rather than stated that Benjen joined the NW after the Rebellion, but the idea that he joined it the moment Ned came back with an heir becuase thats simply how its done dosen't make a lot of sense - they'd just lost their father and brother and sister (and probably lots of others) the last thing they should be feeling is dynastically secure. Following logic, Benjen should have at least waited around for the spare. Thats why I tend to think he either didn't join the NW that young - around the time the girls or even Bran were born, if it was simply for the sake of having a more interesting life doing something he believed in than hanging around being mostly useless as the lords brother - or he did join it young but there is some more plot related personal reason - guilt over Lyanna, exposre to some prophecy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackfish Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Jon might have counted as a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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