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I just saw her clips. She can do young and scared Dany but she better realize that walking into flames and becoming mother of Dragons will require the best performance of her life and then some.

I would love to hear what she thinks of Daenerys and the books and how serious does she understands what will be expected of her truly.

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I just saw her clips. She can do young and scared Dany but she better realize that walking into flames and becoming mother of Dragons will require the best performance of her life and then some.

I would love to hear what she thinks of Daenerys and the books and how serious does she understands what will be expected of her truly.

I don't think many actors really get the chance to read a whole book before they decide whether to take a role on (Unless they were fans in the first place).

Given the bickering about her looks/ability that's dominated the thread so far (and hopefully dead and gone) are you saying you have doubts due to her limited portfolio of work? Or are you saying it's a tough role for anyone too pull off and you wonder how much they've been told about some of the most intense scenes?

I'd imagine the casting people consider these things when running an audition (I hope so) and select parts to read that give the best possible indicator of the actors ability for the different qualities the role requires. Doesn't mean it's a fullproof system, only that they can only try so much. No doubt she will read Dany's chapters and do her best.

I brought this up a couple of pages back. I'd say Emilia would definately have been told that the role requires her to have a sex scene with a six and a half foot tall man. Depending on how they want to present Dany's first sex scene with Drogo, that could be a tough one.

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We did see some of the audition tapes for other contenders. They picked the pyre scene and one of her scenes with Viserys. Seems to be a good selection. :)

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Oh for fucks sake.

The level of obsession some people have over Dany is truly bizzare. And how can people even guess as to what an unknown will be like in a role based of a few photos and tiny clips.

Frankly, all I can say about this casting is that she's a good looking girl and I wish her luck. There's literally nothing else to discuss. :lol:

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Or are you saying it's a tough role for anyone too pull off and you wonder how much they've been told about some of the most intense scenes?

This.

Although i consider "most intense scenes" something totally different then you, apparently.

I find it hard to believe the most important actors wont read or didnt read the books. Maybe some who are well known already can rely on script alone.

I very much doubt Emilia didnt read the book or at least Daenerys chapters.

What better way to learn the character fully?

Im guessing that was how she got interested in the role in the first place and the reason she gave such a compelling performance at audition.

I brought this up a couple of pages back. I'd say Emilia would definately have been told that the role requires her to have a sex scene with a six and a half foot tall man. Depending on how they want to present Dany's first sex scene with Drogo, that could be a tough one.

Thats irrelevant and by far the easiest thing to do. Its not like she will actually have sex with six and a half foot man.

I very much doubt the sex itself will be shown in any detailed way anyway. Probably just -Drogo enters the tent- and fade to black.

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I very much doubt Emilia didnt read the book or at least Daenerys chapters.

What better way to learn the character fully?

Depends on the actor and their process. Julianne Moore has said she doesn't even read the lines of the other actors she's playing against, nor scenes she's not in. She often doesn't even know what a movie is about when she takes a role, just what her own character is. Sure, it's possible the role she's in comes from a book she already knows, but the majority of her roles are in movies that don't have any preceding source material so such a thing isn't even possible.

Other actors do very deep research on their roles and read not only the source material, but scholarly criticism of said books and do deep character analysis long before they ever utter a word on the sound stage.

Every actor as their own process.

Im guessing that was how she got interested in the role in the first place and the reason she gave such a compelling performance at audition.

I'm guessing she got interested in the role because her agent sent her on an audition for the lead in an HBO series, which is about as plum a role as a new, young actress with only a tiny professional resume can possibly hope for. It's not impossible she already knew the books, but by no means is it certain, or even likely.

When the LotR movies were first casting, one of my company's clients - a mostly unknown actor with some good West End stage credits - got asked to audition for Frodo. This actor had never read the books, in fact in my office I was the only manager who had and had to explain even to my colleagues that it was the lead in the entire series. That night, I met with this actor and basically explained the whole story of LotR to him over a few beers and coached him through the two scenes he would have to do for the reading. Honestly, I think I gave him an advantage a lot of other actors didn't have because I'm quite certain many didn't get the kind of hands-on, managerial assistance I gave him, and were just shoved into an audition for a very complicated role they knew nothing about by an overworked agent who didn't have that kind of time. (He got as far as his tape being seen by Peter Jackson, so I guess my coaching helped and the Casting Director, Victoria Burrows said his performance was good, but he didn't get any roles in the film, unfortunately. Personally, I think he was more suited to either the Merry or Pippen roles.)

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Smiling Knight, you underestimate HBO with regards to sex.

Really?

Anyway, the sex scenes are not whats most demanding in Daenerys role.

Depends on the actor and their process. Julianne Moore has said she doesn't even read the lines of the other actors she's playing against, nor scenes she's not in. She often doesn't even know what a movie is about when she takes a role, just what -

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Every actor as their own process.

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I'm guessing she got interested in the role because her agent sent her on an audition for the lead -

I know that. Since she is not Juliane Moore i would prefer if she did read the book and understands and likes the character she is going to play - with all the background the books provide.

It could also be that she got interested only because her agent saw a good opportunity, but i dont see why it isnt likely she has read the books too.

Its not like the books are not well known globally.

Anyway, i would prefer she will become Daenerys rather then act like her.

Shedding a few tears, being pretty and having some sex scenes is not Daenerys.

I would feel more confident if i somehow knew she did read the books and truly understands how complex Daenerys role is.

Just a personal quirk of mine.

btw if Juliane Moore was playing her i would force her to read the damn book. :tantrum:

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I would feel more confident if i somehow knew she did read the books and truly understands how complex Daenerys role is.

Just to note. I'd hope one can understand how complex Dany is by just reading the scripts also. :) (That's why I don't unduly care one way or the other).

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i dont see what the fuss about the sex scene is. its just a sex scene , like one million others. shes an actress , she will act through it. no big deal. even if its not perfect it will subtract nothing from the show which is mainly interesting for a lot of other things.

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This.

Although i consider "most intense scenes" something totally different then you, apparently.

I hope you're not being argumentative, because I wasn't. Just asking a question.

I find it hard to believe the most important actors wont read or didnt read the books. Maybe some who are well known already can rely on script alone.

I very much doubt Emilia didnt read the book or at least Daenerys chapters.

What better way to learn the character fully?

Im guessing that was how she got interested in the role in the first place and the reason she gave such a compelling performance at audition.

Thats irrelevant and by far the easiest thing to do. Its not like she will actually have sex with six and a half foot man.

I very much doubt the sex itself will be shown in any detailed way anyway. Probably just -Drogo enters the tent- and fade to black.

Same as what the others said. If the sex scenes in A game of thrones weren't so important than grrm wouldn't have gone into them as much as he did. No it isn't THE most critical scene, but I think it's a demanding one, depending on how they want to use it to develop her character if at all. Was just trying to get things going and away from all the crap, throwing some thoughts out there, not attempting to rain on ideas anyone already has of how they think the movie is exactly going to be. Plus sex scenes are such a juicy topic... ;)

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The Dany sex scenes struck me as fan service, especially her first time. It isn't important to the storyline, not like Jaime/Cersei. The one that might be a tad more important is when Drogo treats her like an animal. That shows the kind of situation she is in and the difference between the cultures. As I was reading, I never understood why Dany became so attached to him. So maybe HBO will try and make their relationship less horrible.

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Just to note. I'd hope one can understand how complex Dany is by just reading the scripts also. :) (That's why I don't unduly care one way or the other).

I would hope so too but i doubt it.

Performance based on a script can be good or serviceable but i wouldnt want to see that kind of performance.

Its not like there will be another chance to film the Song.

I hope you're not being argumentative, because I wasn't. Just asking a question.

Same as what the others said. If the sex scenes in A game of thrones weren't so important than grrm wouldn't have gone into them as much as he did.

Ok, I just wouldnt want to see the discussion about Daenerys turn into discussion of her sex scenes as something critical to her character - or "most important".

We all know (should know) how the sex scenes are filmed in reality. Its just a repetitious process done in who knows how many takes, changes, adjustments etc.

Anyway, yeah... sex scenes are a part of Songs and they do raise the temperature so i probably was wrong in saying there will be "fade to black" moments.

The Dany sex scenes struck me as fan service, especially her first time. It isn't important to the storyline, not like Jaime/Cersei. The one that might be a tad more important is when Drogo treats her like an animal. That shows the kind of situation she is in and the difference between the cultures. As I was reading, I never understood why Dany became so attached to him. So maybe HBO will try and make their relationship less horrible.

I think they are important because they are a part of her development as a character and because sex is a part of life so it shouldnt be shied away from.

If we are to see or read about extreme violence then it should be acceptable to have or see some sex too.

I think ser Martin incorporated sex scenes we see in the books to make everything more real and in the end - natural.

To make his characters more real.

He said himself he doesnt like the fake morality of allowing violence but pretending sex is something that shouldnt be shown.

I dont see any of them as fan service.

Its even somewhat ludicrous to think Martin would do that.

Baker books are full of those, for example. Or Richard Morgans stories etc.

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The Dany sex scenes struck me as fan service, especially her first time. It isn't important to the storyline, not like Jaime/Cersei. The one that might be a tad more important is when Drogo treats her like an animal. That shows the kind of situation she is in and the difference between the cultures. As I was reading, I never understood why Dany became so attached to him. So maybe HBO will try and make their relationship less horrible.

One of the reasons she was attached to him was precisely that first sexual encounter, where he was very gentle and caring, unlike anything Viserys had ever done to her. He showed a side Dany hadn't expected, and I think the scene was very important to the storyline.

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Performance based on a script can be good or serviceable but i wouldnt want to see that kind of performance.

Huh. Well (admittedly not knowing much about the film process) but I would have thought that if something isn't in the script then its going to be difficult for an actor to introduce it?

I think this is another issue where it is best not to be too too hung up on things. Avoids dissappointment. Actors are going to take different approachs to creating these characters on screen. No point us demanding something that is foreign to them.

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Performance based on a script can be good or serviceable but i wouldnt want to see that kind of performance.

What are you basing that assumption on? 90%+ of all performances you've ever seen are based on just a script, whether it's a play or a film. Most things are not adaptations.

There's no source material for The Big Lebowski...or Citizen Kane...or Breathless...I could go on and on, but all of these movies have brilliant performances, none of which are informed by a book or anything that came before it.

The whole point of a script is to present a story to actors so they can play it on screen or stage, and presumably have a chance to play it well. To say that a performance based solely on a script can only be "good or serviceable" is ludicrous.

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I agree w/ Brude,its called acting.This is what actors do (or supposed to do). They get the script, they act. The director helps by asking for a certain emotion or feel to a performance he/she directs. The editor chooses (along with the director) the best takes, etc... Bing bang boom, you got yourself a film/tv show. Ok, not that simple, but basically- yeah...

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Clearly, those are different types of "stories" told through medium of film.

A movie that is based on giving the actors more freedom like Big Lebowski is simply another pie compared to filming a series of movies (television episodes) based directly on a series of Books of this caliber.

the starting premise and direction are nothing alike.

And yes im aware thats how acting goes probably in 90% of cases like you mentioned and tell you what?

Ive seen a shit load of poor acting because of it.

Some by the greatest out there. De Niro is specialist in giving shitty performances once in a while basically ridiculing his status and the audience by intentionally not acting at all.

I mean just a weird example.

Not to mention horrible translations into script where director or whoever is responsible for it just interjects invented scenes out of the blue or just takes out events because of no reason at all, like Lord of the Rings which must be the poorest translation of a book into a movie ever made.

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like Lord of the Rings which must be the poorest translation of a book into a movie ever made.

Oh, you are one of those people. No offense, but I have to say that I'm glad this show is in the hands of experienced writers, producers and directors, and not overzealous fans.

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Not to mention horrible translations into script where director or whoever is responsible for it just interjects invented scenes out of the blue or just takes out events because of no reason at all, like Lord of the Rings which must be the poorest translation of a book into a movie ever made.

Bluntly put, there are reasons that they "invent" scenes or delete events, and yes, they are doing the same for AGOT. Things don't translate properly from book to film all the time. And they don't have the liberty of having the characters explain everything to you the way they do in books.

Examples: some scene I saw referenced where Jaime muttered that killing Aerys was his finest act after Ned insulted him, and we get to meet Tyrion in a whorehouse.

Part of the fun of an adaptation is seeing what's done differently. And I think Lord of the Rings is probably the best fantasy movie made to-date.

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