Ran Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm not strictly sure Aerys was especially in his right mind when he sent these various commands, so inconsistencies are, I think, to be expected.It's a good question as to what Aerys knew of Rhaegar's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mord Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Well, if he asks for Lord Arryn's head, too, then he really is daring the whole Vale to rise up, and besides, just because the son was of the party doesn't mean that Varys had suitably poisoned his mind against the whole family just yet.So, he acts on the poison he has been fed to date, and demands only the heads of the targeted families of the moment, and from an honorable man who he thinks is likely to deliver them (out of loyalty). Also, it could have been a test of Jon Arryn, where failure was not necessarily open rebellion: probably the worst he expected was Arryn putting him off and shielding them in the Eyrie.Or you could just stop at the fact they do call him Aerys the Mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvaAdore Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Well, by taking Lord Starks and his heir's head he has the whole north against him which had been an independent kingdom for quite some time...And if he was being fed all these ideas by Varys, what the hell is the eunuchs agenda? Or you could just stop at the fact they do call him Aerys the Mad.:) true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmastar Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 In regards to Rhaegar, When Ser Barristan is talking about how Rhaegar is "bookish" and found somthing in his studies that made him become a warrior, Is it assumed that he found a passage that led him to believe he was the prince that was promised? While later changing his mind and that it was one of his children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes. It's made explicit in AFfC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Does Randyll Tarly have a beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes. "Lord Randyll Tarly had a short, bristly grey beard and a reputation for blunt speech." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Now - does Sam have a beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 What are you trying to get at here? That Sam is secretly a Targaryen heir because he doesn't have a beard like his dad? Because I could TOTALLY get behind that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Jaehaerys the Conciliator, Aerys the Mad King, Maekar, and, uhm, a lot of other Targaryens had beards. So I can't imagine that's what Jurble is speculating.No, I don't think Sam has a beard. At least, I don't believe one is ever mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I was going to go with "Did Rhaegar have a beard?" after that, but it seems I was preempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazychao5 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 got a little question about edmure when he is in jaime's tent. what was the deal with the singer and all? i never understood it on my first read through and i just got there on my second. is he just afraid of all singers or is it this particular singer that he is afraid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Not afraid of him, just really, really dislikes him. It's Tom o' Sevens. Catelyn says way back in AGoT that Edmure hated singers, ever since a singer bedded a girl he had fancied. We later hear from ASoS that Tom bedded a girl that Edmure fancied, because Edmure had gotten too drunk and was ... unable to perform. Problem was, Tom then went on to make up a song about a "floppy fish", a bit of ribaldry that Catelyn seems to be unaware of, but is obviously a big part of the reason Edmure got hot under the collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDanny Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Now - does Sam have a beard?Gilly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Jaehaerys the Conciliator, Aerys the Mad King, Maekar, and, uhm, a lot of other Targaryens had beards. So I can't imagine that's what Jurble is speculating.I was going to go with "Did Rhaegar have a beard?" after that, but it seems I was preempted. Ohhh, looks like I win!Mad Monkey - 1 | Ran - 24,691Gilly? I think he's overselling that particular pretense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor Targaryen Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 non book related question but What does IRRC (something like that) mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbon Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 non book related question but What does IRRC (something like that) mean?IIRCIf I Recall Correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Other-in-Law Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 IIRCIf I Recall CorrectlyThe often justified response to which would be: YDNRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmastar Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Who was it that recomended Syrio to Ned? I know he says that he came highly recomended but I cant remember if it states by who.... my obv answer would be Varys but im not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 That's funny that you ask that, as I was just pondering this question yesterday. I have seen someone else suggest it was Varys, but it's hard to suppose Ned would necessarily give the eunuch's recommendation much attention. Perhaps others have heard of the former First Sword being in King's Landing, and enough said that the First Swords are supposed to be the best of the best, etc. It's a real question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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