peterbound Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Watched Moon last night.Fucking garbage. So disappointing.I watched too, off of netflix, based on this thread. I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I watched Up when it came out on blu ray, and the first third was pretty good, but the rest was utter shit.I'm glad Moon won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Moon was good but flawed. I prefer it winning to many of the other candidates, although Up was excellent (all of it, not just the first bit; the opening is revisited several times later in the film which keeps that whole element alive, plus I liked the dogs). Maybe District 9 would have been the better all-round SF choice, but the important, vital thing is that the exceptionally weak Star Trek didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I think people who rag on the later parts of Up just completely 100% missed the point of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx4allthefish Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Help me out please, somebody ...Palimpsest by Charles Stross????????Palimpsest was written by Catherynne M. Valente and she didn't win anything, she said so on her blog http://blog.catherynnemvalente.com/ (today) and I couldn't find a this special title by this special author Charles Stross.What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie McBride Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Help me out please, somebody ...Palimpsest by Charles Stross????????Palimpsest was written by Catherynne M. Valente and she didn't win anything, she said so on her blog http://blog.catherynnemvalente.com/ (today) and I couldn't find a this special title by this special author Charles Stross.What am I missing?It's a novella which happened to have the same title of Valente's novel. You can find it on the author website: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/hugo-noms/Palimpsest-published-for-hugos.html. IIRC it should've been un-published after the end of the voting (and I'm sending an email to the webmaster about this) so read it now if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I watched Up when it came out on blu ray, and the first third was pretty good, but the rest was utter shit.I'm glad Moon won.I wish I could find a way to highlight your name so I know never to consider your opinions ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagathai Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Watched Moon last night.Fucking garbage. So disappointing.You are completely wrong. And not only was it a great movie, it was also some of the best hard SF cinema of recent years.UP is the best animated film ever made. It should have won... everything.That's only because you rate movies by how hard they make you cry like a little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I wish I could find a way to highlight your name so I know never to consider your opinions ever again.:DIf you think Moon is "fucking garbage" your opinion in movies is worthless to me. Keep on enjoying your snooze-fest cartoons :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland_85 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Ease up, children. Btw, it's really sad if Moon is the best "hard" (what's hard about it anyway?) SF in years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 In the categories I voted in my taste seems to be that of the general public in most cases.Interesting to see that Avatar ended dead last in the long form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland_85 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It's a knee-jerk reaction to its success. Just like with Titanic right after it came out. It was a point of honor to scoff at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Bear in mind that the award is focused on the screenplay rather than the film proper. Avatar's technical and directorial achievements cannot be minimized, but the script was for the most part reasonably generic and by-the-numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland_85 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It was also perfectly executed. Which can't be said for either Moon or District 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Bear in mind that the award is focused on the screenplay rather than the film proper. Avatar's technical and directorial achievements cannot be minimized, but the script was for the most part reasonably generic and by-the-numbers. Are you sure about that? I was wondering about it lately, checked the official description of the category, and it seems to me it's for the movie as a whole, not focused on the screenplay. Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form): This Award can be given a dramatized production in any medium, including film, television, radio, live theater, computer games or music. The work must last 90 minutes or longer (excluding commercials). Maybe it's an unofficial tradition to focus on the screenplay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Bear in mind that the award is focused on the screenplay rather than the film proper. Avatar's technical and directorial achievements cannot be minimized, but the script was for the most part reasonably generic and by-the-numbers.That's not what people vote on, Ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It's a knee-jerk reaction to its success. Just like with Titanic right after it came out. It was a point of honor to scoff at it.It's a knee jerk reaction to it being a garbage movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I'm going off the fact that the very first thing you see for the nominees is who wrote it. Always seemed a bit of a nod to the fact that these are primarily a set of literary awards. Not as explicit as the Nebula Award for Best Script, but still.That Avatar was last certainly seems to be about the writing being pretty unexceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It was also perfectly executed. A perfectly executed dump still results in just a piece of shit floating in your toilet bowl.Which is a pretty apt description for Ferngully 2: The Revenge!Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx4allthefish Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It's a novella which happened to have the same title of Valente's novel. You can find it on the author website: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/hugo-noms/Palimpsest-published-for-hugos.html. IIRC it should've been un-published after the end of the voting (and I'm sending an email to the webmaster about this) so read it now if you're interested.Thank you for the clarification, Willie. I have been to the link you have provided ... I am really underwhelmed, but that surely is only me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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