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It's not terribly uncommon as a fetish, the sniffing thing. If it's just the sniffing fetish, then the wife and sister are just the most convenient source. At that point, he just needs to be made aware that there are better ways to indulge himself that won't endanger his familial relationships.

Which are? Stealing panties from his female classmates? Relocate to Japan?

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It's a shame that your son won't keep it between he and the kid. If the mother is a slavemaster, I would really fear that she'd fly off the handle with things. But sometimes people can surprise you at how understanding they can be (unfortunately the opposite is true as well).

Honestly, although it's weird, he's probably just looking for anything "girlie" around him and not attracted to his mom/sister. Also, the disney/hentai stuff is gross, but not alarming. I think maybe what needs to happen is your dad empathizes with him, tells him a secret about his own painful emergence through puberty (that he would get erections in class, or that he horded playboy or something - anything!). Just to make the kid not feel like a freak. I think that could be the most damaging.

About a year ago, my then 14 year old daughter was caught having sexual type stories between her and her friends in a couple of notebooks. One mom absolutely freaked out and grounded the girl for weeks and threatened to keep her friends away from her - she is a very overbearing person and they are very strict. It should come as no surprise that this is the girl that was the MOST involved in seeking outlets. Another mom didn't care much, and at first I was a little bit weirded out (they weren't weirdly sexual, mostly about making out and then then DOING IT, without being very graphic). Then I remembered my OWN exploration of sex. I would read VC Andrews books with my friends and we would read the sex bits out loud. I also wrote sex stories, usually comedic but still they were an expression of the curiosity that I felt. I looked at magazines (but I am a girl, so I barely cared about that, just was curious what everything looked like). My friends and I found erotic, explicit story books in their parents bedroom and we read those. There was no internet so that wasn't an option.

Anyway, so I told my daughter all of these things and she really appreciated it, I think. That I wasn't coming down on her about the sex stuff per se, just to be careful how you expressed it, how much of your time it took up, and that coming to me about things she would be confused about would be okay. I didn't tell her dad, in part because of the embarrassment thing, and also in part because he lived far away at the time and I was afraid he would just overreact and not do anything constructive. Since then, my daughter has come to me with questions she has had about sex, feelings that she has had and asked for adult insight on them. We've always had that type of relationship though, and the way I approached her about the stuff only affirmed that I wasn't going to fly off the handle. She's not in any way sexually active by the way, not even close. I feel very confident that once she is though, that she will tell me (she's told me about the boy she made out with and always talks about the boys she likes and why and whathaveyou).

Anyway, just wanted to offer a recent example of a constructive way to deal with things that you really don't want to deal with from your kids.

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There's your problem.

On a more general level, going away from the specific story reported here: I do not think that porn “causes” or even strongly influences a person’s sexual orientations. In pre-Internet times, when it was difficult for young boys to get porn, they still developed fetishes (well, some of them). I never heard that the incidence of paraphilias has increased since the internet was invented. To blame porn for fetishism is a dangerous stance IMHO.

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On a more general level, going away from the specific story reported here: I do not think that porn “causes” or even strongly influences a person’s sexual orientations. In pre-Internet times, when it was difficult for young boys to get porn, they still developed fetishes (well, some of them). I never heard that the incidence of paraphilias has increased since the internet was invented. To blame porn for fetishism is a dangerous stance IMHO.

i agree with you completely.

however, i do blame disney and the like for furries. never before our time of cartoons, theme parks, people dressed as animal mascots, etc did we have the idea of furries. the internet is a glorious thing. it has helped people like ourselves find other people of like interest to share with. but, with that same internet people who want to dress as animals and fuck other people dressed as animals have found one another. not only have they found one another, but they have conventions. yep, just what al gore intended when he invented the internet. way to go, al. :)

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It's a little odd for a pubescent boy to be masturbating with/to a pair of panties, probably.

No, it's really not.

All the kid needs is for someone to help him understand his new found urges, and how to deal with them. Maybe the father can speak to your grandson's school counselor to gain some insight on how best to proceed with the explanation.

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No, it's really not.

All the kid needs is for someone to help him understand his new found urges, and how to deal with them. Maybe the father can speak to your grandson's school counselor to gain some insight on how best to proceed with the explanation.

Yeah although I think it's "weird", I think it's normal, if that makes sense. Same with the Disney/hentai porn.

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He's pretty young, I assume. It might not quite be time to assume he's a lifelong panty sniffer.

Definitely. I for one have grown out of a lot of the things I was into when I was younger, and even things I got into in my 30s, 40s, and 50s. Relationships develop one's sexuality a lot as well, afterall.

On a more general level, going away from the specific story reported here: I do not think that porn “causes” or even strongly influences a person’s sexual orientations. In pre-Internet times, when it was difficult for young boys to get porn, they still developed fetishes (well, some of them). I never heard that the incidence of paraphilias has increased since the internet was invented. To blame porn for fetishism is a dangerous stance IMHO.

I don't know much on the subject, but my personal opinion is that the Internet has a pretty huge role in the development of fetishes in our contemporary culture. Fetishes have to be introduced, after all, they're not innate drives, and I think it was much harder to come across fetishes prior to the explosion in communications technologies. Now we have every fetish available to millions of people at the click of a button, and it's just so much easier to not only expose people to those things, triggering an interest, but the Internet has provided so many ways for those people to fulfill/indulge fetishes as well. BDSM wasn't nearly as popular before the Internet and its exposure in tons of modern media, for example. Certainly there's tons and tons of ways fetishes can start, but coming across them in porn and getting an interest that way is a pretty huge one now a days. I never had much of an interest in BDSM until I read and was exposed to tons of it online.

yep, just what al gore intended when he invented the internet. way to go, al. :)

This is why he didn't get elected; there was a subconscious knowledge in the masses that he was responsible for the only true evil to grace the planet: Furries :P

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the guy who only tips $1 at a time at the strip club.

hey. i am that guy. fear not, strippers. you know you will always get all the money i brought with me to help you go to college or advance your art of dance. $50 over a night from a single patron is not a paltry sum. and i only come across as creepy when i whisper things like 'i wonder what your bones look like' as they slink in to collect the cash in front of me.

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That was kind of my thought, there! Or maybe he'd give up panty-sniffing altogether, if he had sex...which of course, should be safe sex.

I got the impression that this was a young kid, at teh age where he's discovering his sexuality. Somehow, I don't think it would help if Cantabile told this kid: "You need to get laid, NOW!"

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On a more general level, going away from the specific story reported here: I do not think that porn “causes” or even strongly influences a person’s sexual orientations. In pre-Internet times, when it was difficult for young boys to get porn, they still developed fetishes (well, some of them). I never heard that the incidence of paraphilias has increased since the internet was invented. To blame porn for fetishism is a dangerous stance IMHO.

This is pretty ridiculous. Porn, it's various types and the stereotypes around them have a huge influence on our sexuality, just like anything else we consume.

OMG. Just googled "hentai". Needs girlfriend, STAT!!! Or he'll be the creepy 24-year old oogling women in fetishwear at WorldCon parties, or the guy who only tips $1 at a time at the strip club.

Indeed. Seriously, I've seen some of that stuff. And heard about others. You don't start a young kid off with that crap the same way you don't start off an 8 year old with Prince of Nothing.

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Indeed. Seriously, I've seen some of that stuff. And heard about others. You don't start a young kid off with that crap the same way you don't start off an 8 year old with Prince of Nothing.

There's just as much shock in Western styled porn. :stillsick:

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I don't want to offend, but I have to say I do think it IS a bit strange that he would do this. I mean, I was a horny little bastard too at one point, but it would NEVER have even occured to me to swipe my mom's/sis's panties and do that with them. It seems something is really off about his sense of boundaries. I'm not saying he has diabolical plans for his family members, thats not the issue, but the fact that he would repeatedly do that really shows a total lack of respect.

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My grandson is 12, I'm not really sure he needs to be told to go stick his new found toy in everything he can as quickly as he can :P It's not that I'm not opposed to sexuality in that age group so long as proper contraception is used, it's safe, safe and both parties are consensual and know what they're doing, but I'd much rather him explore his sexuality inside of a more mature relationship when he's a bit older. But, of course, he'll end up doing whatever he decides will make him happiest.

Hentai is actually very common. I was completely shocked when I first found out about it, but now a days I don't even blink at hearing people who are into it. It's mostly due to the mass popularity of anime and Japanese video games, I believe. When its so lifelike, and the sexuality of the girls is shoved in the audience's faces and dramatized, it's no surprise that fans of that media end up finding themselves attracted to it. Nothing weird about it, just a simple case of cause and effect. My son got me into anime and video games a few years back, actually, and I became crazed about it for a while. At one point I was actually finding the a girl in a Final Fantasy game attractive, which is when I pulled back and decided, "Ooookay, I need to cut down a bit"

It's a bit weirder if it's something like Lion King, definitely, but a lot of cartoon creations are pretty sexual. Think of the Disney princesses. There's a reason at Halloween so many girls dress up as slutty Alices, or Jasmines.

Sexuality, I believe, is much like religion. To paraphrase something Bakker said recently: Every single one of us is prone to it. It's just a matter of who gets to us first, and how their case is presented whether or not we end up believing in it or not.

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I don't want to offend, but I have to say I do think it IS a bit strange that he would do this. I mean, I was a horny little bastard too at one point, but it would NEVER have even occured to me to swipe my mom's/sis's panties and do that with them. It seems something is really off about his sense of boundaries. I'm not saying he has diabolical plans for his family members, thats not the issue, but the fact that he would repeatedly do that really shows a total lack of respect.

I blame all the hentai viewing. Japanese teenagers (and old people) in some mangas have some weird attraction to panties going on. If all the porn the kid's seen is this, no wonder he'd think it's normal behaviour for kids his age.

Some good old western pornography will fix this and make him confident in his sexuality. That is, until he begins comparing sizes...

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I don't know much on the subject, but my personal opinion is that the Internet has a pretty huge role in the development of fetishes in our contemporary culture. Fetishes have to be introduced, after all, they're not innate drives, and I think it was much harder to come across fetishes prior to the explosion in communications technologies. Now we have every fetish available to millions of people at the click of a button, and it's just so much easier to not only expose people to those things, triggering an interest, but the Internet has provided so many ways for those people to fulfill/indulge fetishes as well. BDSM wasn't nearly as popular before the Internet and its exposure in tons of modern media, for example. Certainly there's tons and tons of ways fetishes can start, but coming across them in porn and getting an interest that way is a pretty huge one now a days. I never had much of an interest in BDSM until I read and was exposed to tons of it online.

This is why he didn't get elected; there was a subconscious knowledge in the masses that he was responsible for the only true evil to grace the planet: Furries :P

AFAIK, fetishism in the clinical sense of a paraphilia usually describes a relatively stable sexual orientation that is developed in adolescence and doesn’t change much afterwards. In the strict sense, a fetish is physical object that causes sexual arousal. In severe cases, the person can find sexual fulfillment only when the fetish is involved. Typical fetishes are clothing, rubber, footwear, body parts, leather etc... All of these things are parts of everyday live since a long time and do not need to be introduced by the internet.

But I have to admit that the Internet is such a new phenomenon, that we cannot see all its consequences at the moment. Maybe in ten or twenty years there will be a flood of articles describing new paraphilias that can only be explained as effects of the internet. But somehow I doubt that. Paraphilias usually have a deeper psychological meaning / function. I don’t see how you could get that trough the internet.

Concerning the furries: Zoophilia emerged as a surprisingly frequent phenomenon in the US when Kinsey made his explorations into American sex live in the 1940ies…

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