Sniffing Sister's and Mother's Panties

[Cantabile]

Speculating that Cantabile's grandkid is going to auto-erotically asphixiate himself on chatroulet is really crossing a boundary

What the hell? What is chatroulet, and do things like that actually occur?

Well, my son tried approaching the subject of sexality with the grandson today, just lightly bringing it up, and offering to be there for for him. Naturally my grandson didn't want to talk about it, and just tried to casually dismiss it, so I don't really think any progress was made. Nothing is really to stop him from just continuing to talk to this guy online about sex rather than his own father.

The plan is that if the next time they check the keylog this issue with the guy is still going on, then my son is going to take away the webcam. He's not going to explain that they've been spying, but is going to say that an incident happened to another child, and after talking with the parent about it, they decided it's best for a 12 year old to not possess a webcam with unrestricted use. Will also incorporate a talk about sexual predators and such into the discussion.

Hopefully it helps...

[Shryke]

Wait, so he's going to wait till NEXT TIME YOUR UNDERAGE GRANDSON TALKS TO SOME UNKNOWN OLDER MAN VIA WEBCAM ABOUT SEX TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!?!?!?

[jurble]

What the hell? What is chatroulet, and do things like that actually occur?

http://www.chatroulette.com/

If you truly, truly dare.

[Cantabile]

Wait, so he's going to wait till NEXT TIME YOUR UNDERAGE GRANDSON TALKS TO SOME UNKNOWN OLDER MAN VIA WEBCAM ABOUT SEX TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!?!?!?

My son wants to believe that the only reason the kiddo was talking to a stranger about these things, was because he didn't think he could talk to his dad about them. Now that my son has brought up the topic, he's hoping that he will consult him about these things from now on, and that the issue of him talking to the guy will dissapear since it won't be necessary to talk to him about sexuality anymore.

It's hopeful, but my son can't handle confrontation well, so I'm not surprised by the decision.

[The Evil Hat]

I think that a refusal to address the issues head on isn't going to help in the long run. Perhaps there's a way to mention the starcraft fellow without mentioning the keylogger? Though I'm not sure how that would be done. Still, in areas where things are at this stage, I think it necessary for your son to push through his embarrassment and talk about the issues directly. But I'll admit that I can't know the whole situation from summaries.

[Spastic Plastic]

I'm sorry if my joke about Chatroulette offended you, Cantabile. I didn't mean to imply that your grandson will end up a voyeur who chronically masturbates along with a hundred other weirdos in front of a webcam.

I do think that your son needs to have The Talk with the kid and take away his webcam, instead of going around behind his back like this.

[Cantabile]

I think that a refusal to address the issues head on isn't going to help in the long run. Perhaps there's a way to mention the starcraft fellow without mentioning the keylogger? Though I'm not sure how that would be done. Still, in areas where things are at this stage, I think it necessary for your son to push through his embarrassment and talk about the issues directly. But I'll admit that I can't know the whole situation from summaries.

I can't really think of a way to talk about it without mentioning the guy. Claiming they had a prophetic dream about him talking to a pedophile online is possibly but...a little suspicious :P

I'm sorry if my joke about Chatroulette offended you, Cantabile. I didn't mean to imply that your grandson will end up a voyeur who chronically masturbates along with a hundred other weirdos in front of a webcam.

Oh, it didn't offend me at all! I just had no idea something like that even existed. I shouldn't be all that surprised; it makes sense that exhibitionism would evolve with the Internet.

[Tears of Lys]

Oh, it didn't offend me at all! I just had no idea something like that even existed. I shouldn't be all that surprised; it makes sense that exhibitionism would evolve with the Internet.

Heh. That sort of thing doesn't require the Internet. I take it you've never heard of the San Francisco Jacks. (Ye Gods! It's so NSFW it's incredible!)

The local shock-jock radio station brought it to the attention of unsuspecting listeners, which is the only reason my innocent ears have heard about it. :P

ETA: My Spidey senses are tingling - a sure sign that this thread is teetering on the precipice of being closed.

[Darkostar]

If he has, the realization clearly wasn't enough to make him stop doing what he's doing.

Or he's doing it as a way to act out against his abusive mom?

[The Evil Hat]

Or he's doing it as a way to act out against his abusive mom?

Which doesn't change the fact that what he's doing is dangerous and unacceptable in any way.

[Darkostar]

Which doesn't change the fact that what he's doing is dangerous and unacceptable in any way.

Granted. Although I think the camming thing is the only dangerous choice.

[The Evil Hat]

I'd agree, there, if I'm interpreting what you're saying correctly.

[Darkostar]

I dunno, none of what he's looking at seems like a drastic kink (take what I say with a grain of salt, as I've been in the kink world for awhile now, hence my interest in this thread- I was lost too, at first.)

The camming thing, however, is a really, really bad way to initially explore your sexuality, specially with a dude who might take advantage of you.

[The Evil Hat]

Well, I'd take issue with many of the things explored if they became habitual. Bestiality at twelve is a tad much, and I don't think that it's necessarily a good idea to get your initial exposure to sex through hentai, bestiality, and X-Mass roleplaying, with only a very, very questionable mentor to provide a potentially more realistic balance.

All that being said, what you look at in porn is by no means directly translated into your sexual preferences. I think that most boarders have, at some point, looked at "objectionable" porn, and I'd also hazard a guess that most of them are not rapists, or tentacles, or what have you.

[Eponine]

• He's getting his sex ed from a middle-aged man he met on Starcraft II. This is the thing I'm most uncomfortable with, because they're having webcam chats as well. [snip] A good chunk of their conversation was about more irregular sexual topics, though, like BDSM, tentacle porn, and such ... it's not like those are BAD topics, but from a middle-aged dude he met on Starcraft? Makes me feel very uneasy.

• Cyber sex. I am pretty sure this was a joke though. We don't know who the conversation was with, since the parents don't know his friends on AIM, but I believe it was with another man, and basically they were role playing Santa and Rudolph....

A twelve year old kid is talking about tentacle porn with a middle aged man he met online, and his father isn't going to remove the webcam until it happens again, because he hopes that the whole situation will disappear.

I want to cry.

This all is what I've gotten from this thread so far:

He's exposed to his mother physically abusing his father - breaking his arm, burning his belongings.

He's not had any sexual education.

He smells his mother's and sister's underwear.

He may have masturbated in his mother's bed.

He has a nervous twitch because of his mother's yelling.

He's been getting his sex ed from unusual online porn.

He takes covert pictures of his female classmates' underwear.

He's been having webcam meetings with a strange man that he met on the internet about BDSM and other sex topics.

He had a weird cyber sex conversation and his parents don't know who with but it was probably a man.

His father doesn't want to confront any of these situations.

A twelve year old child isn't a sicko for responding poorly to an awful situation. He's a child. But this all isn't one little case of odd sexual expression where he just needs to be taught proper boundaries. It sounds like almost everything in his life is without security and without anyone to help him. I can't tell anyone what to do, but if he were my relative, I'd do whatever I could to get custody of him, because he's being hurt where he is. I'm sorry if that sounds judgmental, because I'm not blaming Cantabile, who just recently found out about a lot of this, but all these things are things that he has said about the situation and the child needs some help for even one of those things going on in his life, but with all of them together, I'm seriously worried about his safety.

[Darkostar]

RC - I can't help but think that the newfound combo of board name and av (which many get, but many don't, but Frisky does get) has given you some newfound level of confidence. This doesn't bother me, because I almost pissed myself laughing the first time that I saw it. I'm so happy to see that you have so much to contribute to the board. Did it really require a "Darkostar" moment to make it come to fruition?

ETA: So yeah, I'm all aboard

Bahaha, I noticed that too, but it stems from having a thread about kink, which is one subject that I can actually talk about like an expert (you guys out-class me in most other areas.) I dunno, we'll see what happens.

And Hat, you're right, he's still exploring, but the snuffing thing has manifested itself in his offline life, so I would hazard that he harbors some sniffing tendencies, regardless of how early it is.

Cant, the incest thing, I think, probably ties to the mother. Most incest hentai is very focused on the seduction of the mother, who is initially very hesitant.

Now, I don't think that this means your grandson wants to boink his mom; more likely it's a byproduct of his need to be accepted and cherished.

[CloudFlare]

Desire for Golden Retrievers? Roleplay “Santa fucks Rudolph”? After, what was the OP? “Sniffing mom's panties”?

Cantabile, the truth now: Are you the Ultimate Dark SuperTroll, the cruellest of Trolls, who starts trolling only after building trust for > 500 posts? Are you laughing your hysterical evil laughter™ at the moment, because we idiots here actually believe all that stuff you tell us?

I'd say yes. He's entirely too flippant about the situation, and other than Casey Serin I haven't seen anyone put this much private information into the public domain.

[Cantabile]

I'd say yes. He's entirely too flippant about the situation, and other than Casey Serin I haven't seen anyone put this much private information into the public domain.

Flippant? That's pretty offensive to me. Family is the most important thing in my life, and this situation has been weighing on me a lot. If I was flippant about it, I wouldn't be discussing it or seeking advice and opinions. I try to be Stoic about shit like this in life, and not let it get me down too much, because that only makes the problem worse. And the current reality is that I am helpless in this situation. It is not my child, and I do not have custody. All I can do is offer my ear and my advice, and being unable to do anything is a pretty shitty feeling. I'm sorry if I have in any way come off as flippant, but I can assure you that is in no way the case, and that I will never be flippant where my family is concerned.

[DemiNymph]

This reply may come a little late, but I'm replying to the OP. For a subtle hint, sit the whole family down and watch American Pie. I don't know if you have watched it, but the protagonist is in a very very similar situation. Make it a fun thing. It would set the mood for future talks and lessen awkwardness.

[smegma]

Aren't you the guy that doesn't like vag juice?

I think this is all coming full circle.